mubhaur said:

Please do share the results in terms of accuracy.

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Will do brother

.20calguy said:

It would be nice if you could get her shooting with you!

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She tried but just could not get into shooting , We both got CCl permits when we moved here as we live outside of town , calling the cop's is a joke time wise .

I just go to my local Staples, They have a UPS shipping counter usually maned by some kid that couldn't care less. They take it, throw it on the pile, and say have a nice day.

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beerthief said:

been cold here lucky i have a dual fuel system . it has warmed up 5 degrees so far but only a 52 degree day . I am tempted to go an extra 1000 miles on the way home from my daughters house in Campbell CA and stop in AOA /pick up an HW30 in .20 , but no , wife will be in the truck so this is just a dream.
today is going to be Iron Sights day .

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It would be nice if you could get her shooting with you!

A.G.R said:

I’ve also read where you machine down the last 1 inch to say 8 mm and make a undersized sleeve to be .005 smaller ID , and heat it and slip it over the small end and when it cools it shrinks but I’ve not tried it

I’ll do a test this week to try it.. Don’t seem like enough pressure but test will confirm.

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Please do share the results in terms of accuracy.

I shot the 75 yard Crazy Eights, through four times with the .20 cal 97K. Then when I couldn't see them anymore I danced the plastic bottle till it went out of sight. Then to say good night I left the parting shot into the hanging pot. The last visible target at dusk with a loud report.

A fun shoot shooting as fast as I could cock aim and fire, with my wife cheering me on.

I'll share a somewhat embarrassing pic of the 75 yard range that desperately needs work.

been cold here lucky i have a dual fuel system . it has warmed up 5 degrees so far but only a 52 degree day . I am tempted to go an extra 1000 miles on the way home from my daughters house in Campbell CA and stop in AOA /pick up an HW30 in .20 , but no , wife will be in the truck so this is just a dream.
today is going to be Iron Sights day .

I also have two 3x12 SFP Veyrons. Very satisfied with them. I was thinking of getting one of the ir dot 3x12 Veyrons when they became available to try out. Seems like it's been a while since they announced the ir models. I did find the 3x12ir for sale on Vectors US site. It only list the SFPir for $200.00. They show 4 in stock. Doesn't say if their in the US or coming on a slow boat? The site is Vector2007.com. I think I will wait till the price gets better.

ocpgunner95 said:

@Michael is correct choked barrel, and velocities nothing over 940, and nothing under 870, that 70fps curve seems to be magic for them.

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I shoot hybrids at 1100fps with extreme accuracy at 100 yards.

cra627 said:

I have a crown mk2 in both 380 and 600. Run Hades in both. The 600 is very accurate with the RMR/FX hybrid slugs (1:22 twist). As Trucker said extremely consistent with the 44 grain. 50g not so much.

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The aea 45 grain are most accurate with the 1in22 twist. 886fpsis speed you want them.the hybrids do ok,but they really like about 980fps,can't get that with the crown. Jsb has fliers unless you sort them ,the aea pellets are a better buy and shoot more accurate. When your liner fouls,accuracy will diminish some. You'll notice,it's time to clean.

Firewalker said:

I'll teather for the session but I would not keep the fosters connected long term.

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Advice taken and "Now Followed"! lol

ETA It's still holding pressure overnight.

Both of your cold shots look pretty solid at 50y and outside with environmental factors in play.

Chief Ten-Beers said:

It's working properly now, but now I have the same Prob with the Female on the Fill Hose. I wasn't aware of that until I refilled the Tanks. I need to fix that one now. Lesson Learned, disconnect tether after

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Chief Ten-Beers said:

It's working properly now, but now I have the same Prob with the Female on the Fill Hose. I wasn't aware of that until I refilled the Tanks. I need to fix that one now. Lesson Learned, disconnect tether after shooting.

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I'll teather for the session but I would not keep the fosters connected long term.

crowski said:

My range hasn’t had any attention since June. It’s a right off. This drives me crazy looking at it every day. View attachment 504622The pole fell in a wind storm a few months ago. Did very little shooting all summer. But that’s about to change. I’ve started cleanup. There’s 4 months abuse. Crow

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Yes. The weather is changing here and its a nice time to straten the range out. The only downside side is going be loosing daylight savings time and an extra hour in the evening. I even considered a squirrel hunt this season. I haven't done that since the early 90's.

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When it comes to cooling water for long term use, you need to be concerned about a few particular issues.

pH, TDS and anticorrosive chems. Automotive antifreeze mixed at the proper dilution rate provides all three with no need for testing.

If you use distilled or RODI water and a whetter only, you risk a high/low pH and a lack of TDS.

It's unknown if the cheap chinesium PC coolant whetters have any anticorrosives at all so be aware.

Total Dissolved Solids (TDS) is essential to your system and the lack of them will cause erosion of the water jacket metals as the ions from the water jacket will be removed to satisfy the missing solids in your cooling water. This is different from corrosion.

I've spoken about heat transfer a few times here but here's a quote to help you understand the concept better:

"In thermodynamics, the heat transfer coefficient or film coefficient, or film effectiveness, is the proportionality constant between the heat flux and the thermodynamic driving force for the flow of heat (i.e., the temperature difference, ΔT)."

We casually express this as Delta T and at the core, it means the differential temperature of the cooling water before it enters the head and after heat transfer has happened and the temperature of the cooling water as it exits.

We know from a billion of automobiles and trucks worldwide that a ΔT of 20°F is sufficient to cool the ICE and keep them running at temp indefinitely (less fuel, oil and wear).

So it is with our water cooled compressors, cold faucet water, ice, cooling etc are not needed to cool the head. Just water that is room temperature is capable of a 20° ΔT.

Stormin-Normin said:

Thanks so much for replying. Your engraving looks the same as mine! I feel the same way about my HW30S. It continues to amaze me. Yesterday I shot a one inch group of 5 at 50 yards. Shooting .177 Air Arms Diabolo Express 4.5/ 7.87pellets. I have a Hawk 2-7 scope mounted.

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That's a very nice group at that range! Regarding the translation of the engraving. A native speaker told me it says "to praise".

bdzjlz said:

Went to my local UPS center on Monday to ship an air rifle back to AOA for service. Big new sign at the counter said in bold print “No Longer Shipping Firearms.”

Counter manager said the only way one can ship a “firearm” is if you get a call tag/label from a licensed manufacturer or dealer that has “registered as such with UPS” in advance.

He said that no one had instructed that he couldn’t take a pellet gun or air rifle yet, so he went ahead and accepted my shipment.

Went back the next evening to ship an air rifle that I had sold via AGN classifieds , only to have to argue with the female clerk that the new policy didn’t apply to airguns. I finally convinced her to accept it.

The world continues to change and not in our favor.

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Oh man,I ship a lot but none of our air guns are labeled as firearms so we shouldn’t have any problems

Michael said:

None of my barrels (liners) yielded the results I wanted at 985 FPS. The standard liner was ok, the heavy liner was better, but I’m looking for greatness.

I detuned it a bit down to 930 FPS for the 22g Hybrids, and 880 FPS with the 25g Hades Monsters (I’ve got a feed lot pesting trip coming up ). Now it’s shooting ridiculously smooth and quiet.


I should get a chance to test it tomorrow.

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That's what i found with the NSA 23gr 2175 slug as well, my M4 is a lot quieter and tame at 940~950fps than when i had it at 980~1000fps. I kept the reg at 120 bar to also drive the 25gr AEA pellets. 45~50ft-lb seems to be the sweet spot for my bone stock M4 without pushing it too hard, very snappy and fun to shoot.

babbando said:

Hi im new here just picked up an m4 and would like advice on slug weight and brand for foxes out to about 60 meters/yards. Also any advice on tune velocity etc

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Neilsons are great slugs.

I prefer .25 H&N 40gr heavy slugs.