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Umarex  Umarex Zelos

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Perle said:
Zelos .25. Tanto
Accurate and Quiet View attachment 485191I’m extremely happy.
Trigger needs adjustment for first stage length.

…I’m perplexed as to why the fill port cover leaves the fill port open to air …and dust.

It’s a shooter for sure.
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I’ve got the .22 and a Sumo on the way. Did you adjust the trigger? If so could you share results and how much you adjusted?
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HW/Weihrauch  HW95K adjustable

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BABz58 said:
I have spring from a new never shot HW95 you can have for free. Just cover the shipping and it’s yours.

And you are right. HWs are known for having bad springs in the HW95s. Maybe other models as well. But I don’t know.
Either way they need to fix that issue. Period.
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My HW70 has eaten it's third factory spring in less than 2k pellets. The HW95's are rookies compared to my pistol.
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Optics  SOLD 6-24X50mm Cvlife Bearpower FFP Rifle Scope MOA

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Brand new in the box. Comes with scope rings. 34mm tube. Parallax goes down to 10 yards. Illuminated reticle Christmas tree style. Never installed. Bought brand new for a build that never happened. PayPal friends and family NC. Add 3% for standard PayPal. $100 including shipping for the lower 48 states.

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HW/Weihrauch  HW95K adjustable

BABz58
Bedrock Bob said:
That is excellent advice.

I'm aware there are good solutions. I'm wondering why there is a problem in the first place. It would be so easy to correct.

It's my opinion they should focus on those problems rather than new features. The guns are too darn expensive to have to modify them to get reliable service.

At least make them reliable enough to outlast a $150 Hatsan. I honestly don't think that is an unreasonable expectation when buying a $600 rifle.
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I have spring from a new never shot HW95 you can have for free. Just cover the shipping and it’s yours.

And you are right. HWs are known for having bad springs in the HW95s. Maybe other models as well. But I don’t know.
Either way they need to fix that issue. Period.
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Umarex  Umarex Zelos

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Airgun Al said:
Zelos or Max 1?

1. Has anyone seen a sale price on the Zelos in .25 caliber, that is in stock? (Umarex's discount code on their own web site, does not seem to work for me.)

2. Does anyone have any details, on the yet to be released Snowpeak Max 1, or the Umarex version of same, such as (release date/ price/ Umarex name)?

I know the Max 1 is suppose to be almost the same size, same length, about 1 pound heavier, and a lot more power than the Zelos.

My plan is to wait until the Max 1 gets released, and then examine the Max 1 reviews, but....If the Zelos were to go on sale, I would certainly be tempted!

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The .25 is on sale from Battlehawk for $404 with $15 shipping

battlehawkarmory.com

RWS/Umarex 2251543 25 Cal 18rd Shot

battlehawkarmory.com battlehawkarmory.com

If that goes out of stock there’s a few other places with it under $450
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Karma  Figment of anyone else’s imagination??

Bedrock Bob
csdilligaf said:
I read through the FX patents. They seem to want to cover anything and everything. At this point they may be able to go after Lewis and Clark for the rifle they took on the expedition.
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They would probably win the case if Lewis and Clark don't have the funding to fight them in court.

I think these lawsuits are more about straining the competitions assets when they are vulnerable. Small competitors are easy to pick off with timely litigation. If you can tie them up in court a few months they can't balance their quarterly statements.

All you need is a lawyer and some papers claiming infringement. The competitor must dance in court and risk any future sales of the product pending the outcome. Suddenly their business plan is on the courts timeline. Unless they have the funds to fight and win they are screwed.

In a declining market the big fish eat the little fish. It's probably a winning business strategy in our brave new world.
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JTS  First Problem with the "Cuda"

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Dairyboy said:
I've fixed a similar leak with a drop of silicone oil on the male fitting before putting air in it. Could help.
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I tried the Oil trick, I put some in the Male as well as the Female. It didn't work at first, but then I tried bleeding the line pressure from the Tank quickly a couple of times, at first it slowed a little, the second time, a little more, 3 times and now it does not appear to be leaking. I have shot hundreds of rounds since I last put oil. I was a slacker! Thanks for the Tip!
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Importance of scope zero

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An added benefit after glancing at the graph is it looks like more of the blue line intersects with even number holds on whole yardage numbers. Assuming you have the Midas Tac reticle with .2 sub tensions, you would be holding more often on a .2 line rather than a .3 space (if that makes sense). I like to tweak my zero so that the holdovers for the smallest KZ sizes will be as close as possible to a reticle mark instead of a reticle space. I get that yardages aren't always going to fall on an exact yard, but you can get close by shuffling back and forth in the shooter box.
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HW/Weihrauch  HW95K adjustable

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Bedrock Bob said:
I understand how a fellow who likes to tinker with air rifles wants to "improve" them for special uses. And there is a difference in the feel of the shot. I'm not sure it really improves accuracy. It may if you lower the power that much.

My 95 has trashed another factory spring. Its the third factory spring in less than 10k shots. It's shooting about 550 fps. Yes the shot cycle is smooth. Yes it is superbly accurate. But you can't shoot it 50 yards with iron sights without using the entire front sight post. The trajectory is just miserable. It does not hit the targets very hard. It's wimpy.

The HW rifles have been more trouble than any brand I've purchased. I simply can't get one to shoot more than 4-5000 shots without a failure. And I've owned 4 of them.

I like the new stock design. It may sell more rifles. But IMHO they need better factory springs and dampening much more than an adjustable cheek piece.

I wonder if this new design stock fits the receiver in the rear? All my HW rifles have a big gap between the stock and the receiver that collects stuff. Even the synthetic stock. I've always wondered what the deal was with that gap back there....

My Hatsan has an adjustable cheek piece, thumbhole walnut stock, shoots 760 fps and is almost as accurate as the HW95. It cost me a whopping $150. In my experience the Hatsans have lasted about 8000 shots before spring failure. My D34 lasted 15000 shots between factory springs and I have another 15000 on a Vortek kit for a total of 45000 shots. It holds a consistent 675 fps. I've never had an HW rifle that would shoot over 650fps nor last longer than 6-8 tins of pellets before I sent it back for repair.

I'm all for more features and adjustments. New stock designs. Tuning and tweaking is great. I just wish they would focus on dependability and making a more utilitarian design rather than esthetics and extra features.
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You would think they would address the spring issue, but they won't. Their factory springs are too brittle and they snap at the ends, at least mine did. My 77K spring actually was pretty good and has several thousand shots on it, had it up to 937 fps at one time, now it collects dust in my spring stash. I use ARH springs as Jim Maccari knows how to make a spring last, I have broke one of his Hornet springs after thousands of shots but that was the only one. I use his smaller wire springs now, .120 diam and space them up in my 97K and they work good for me. Although I make my own guides and top hat, this isn't an option for some people. I haven't tried any of the Vortek stuff, so I can't comment on that. I imagine HW's production of the springs is for the fastest cycle time and tempering or whatever they do. But production is about time saved to make more products, so there's that.
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N/A  gas rams

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Hi beerthief,
I have the Weihrauch HW90, which has an adjustable power gas ram. I can also confirm that it is fun to play with the ram pressure to tune the performance and accuracy.

Check out "Best fittings" out of England for an adaptor for air pump attachment.

Theoben / Weihrauch HW90 Gas Ram Charging Pump Kit – Slim Jim – Best Fittings

www.bestfittings.co.uk www.bestfittings.co.uk
Also, this thread was very informative:

HW90 potential

I just had the most remarkable experience with my .22 HW90. I have been experimenting with power levels and different barrels. A couple of days ago I got around to installing a Vortek 30mm Vacuseal piston seal, and tried some shot strings with different pellets and gas ram bar levels. Here's a...
www.airgunnation.com www.airgunnation.com
-Airman
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