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22 or 177 for hunting at 15 yards with sub 12 FT/LB air rifle?

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JimD said:
Energy "dump" is a myth. Our airguns kill by making a hole. A bigger hole kills quicker but only if the hole is deep enough to take out something vital.
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^^^^^ THIS^^^^^ Energy kills nothing. Tissue damage is what kills. A fast ball has way more energy than a broadhead from a Bow. I know which one I'd much rather get hit with.

Honestly squirrels are tough. You need to head shoot them if you want them DRT. You can body shoot them with a 22lr and get some run offs. Accuracy over firepower. This is the oldest argument. Nobody ever wins it.
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Right here at home!

R
I've been envious of the pesting videos. seems we have a pest problem of large proportions, within blocks of my home. Nutria! No bounty like down in Louisiana, but Nutria are an issue in SW Washington. We have a system of sloughs around Longview here, the Nutria really tear the joint up, a very destructive pest. A hunting license is required, otherwise zero restrictions since Washington declares them an invasive destructive species. Since they are "cute" I'll need to use good judgement reducing the population. Local laws prohibit firearms discharge inside the city and parts are in city limits, my air rifles are fine regardless. Be perfect for the kayak when it quits raining. Look for some Nutria shots soon.
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Bench Rest Accuracy with tuner (Heliboard)

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Smok3y said:
I’ll share some things I made note of in my notebook from my last RedWolf 22HP with the Helliboard. I think this model was before the newer GCU2. I’ll try to find my spreadsheet as well to see what other good nuggets I can find. I didn’t make any notes here before the Helliboard install.

First - Fill pressure… If I ever filled more than 230, my extreme spread was wide. I usually only filled to 220 to keep it tight.

18gr FX and JSB notes at 50yds. Differences are probably just lot related and may not have anything to do with the label since they are made at the same plant.
  1. Mine liked the FX more than JSB in every case.
  2. At 880 FPS the 18s did the best, which is about right for most every 22 I have owned. Much less fliers at this speed. 880-890 in every 22 I’ve owned has been the sweet spot.
    1. The JSBs I had seemed to like faster better at 950. I do have several notes about a big flier every now and then, and that is never mentioned at the slower speeds, but they were worst of all at slow speeds.
    2. The FX liked the 880 best, but appeared to also do really well at 950.
    3. I don’t have notes on any other rifle liking 18s that fast (950). The notes I can find on all my rifles, showed some promise at fast speeds but always had problems with flyers.
FX and JSB 25gr
  1. Mine liked the JSB more going fast!
  2. JSB at 990 were great and best of all, but didn’t really like 950
  3. FX liked 950 more and were very good but didn’t quite match JSB at higher speeds. FX didn’t like the higher speeds.
Anyway… that is what I got. I would not assume anything in the FX vs JSB comments around branding until you try them. Just like when shooting 22LR, it could be a batch thing, so I don’t want to assume anything widespread based on small sample sizes.

I think the factory RW shot the 18s around 880, and the 25s around 940, but both were better with the Helliboard.
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I too noticed state of fill effecting my groups and es. Hey if your gun liked the jsb more than the sorted jsb(fx) It's all for the better to save some coin. Every gun I have in 22 likes mrd pellets washed and barely lubed. 400 fps to 1k+. Pellet liner/tight choke or heavy liner with less choke and that liner only shoots the heavy pellets well. If its adjustable on your gun, toy with seating depth as well if you have to chase the dragon. Op's groups were beautiful as is, but i understand chasing perfection.
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Unknown reciever

me_ne_frego
TnCnDn said:
Look at the pic, compare the screw fixing penetration and the transfer port. A recent 2240 is the same spacing as the 2213. Thanks for your input, much appreciated!
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What tube is that in the picture? This is a standard 2240 tube with mounting locations for both style breeches. The breech in the photo looks like a polished discovery breech or possibly and aftermarket breech like the other guy said. I have all 3 types of breeches and every main tube to compare.

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Tips and Shooting Technique with an Air Rifle Mounted Atop of a Tripod

MAUMAU
I do not use a hand scanner as this method works great for me. My biggest issue is that animals will literally walk right by me and have no idea that I am there. If a deer gets within 15', I usually make a small noise so that they don't spook and run me over. Had an Armadillo come and sniff my boot, and foxes and coyotes just trot by if the wind is right.

The batteries last ~ 4 hours. I do put it on standby mode as I move about, but only so the animals do not see the illuminated viewfinder. There is only a minuscule amount of battery power saved by doing this. If I am out longer, I just throw a new set of rechargeable batteries in the unit.

It is now dark and I will be heading out soon. I hope the piggies cooperate.
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DonnyFl Clipping issues

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slugdug said:
Ahh, so there is some built in gap, I wondered about that. Is the .3125 the same then on both .22 and .25 mods?
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It used to be, with the yoko things are different apparently. I will mic my yoko when it arrives. My donny fx and my donny ronin are both 5/16 inch bore approx. I was making my own from pvc with aluminum back caps and delrin front caps for a couple weeks and had some clipping issues there, mostly on my marauder. I opened up everything from 1/4 to 5/16 and it changed massively for the better.
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Other  Stoeger XM1 Ranger and Scout are AWESOME

J
I like the products at Airgun-Revisions and you have all the magazines Carm makes for the Bullshark but one I have hunted for is not there. I shoot from my left shoulder and the extra capacity 25 caliber Carm magazine pokes into my face. I want normal capacity 25 magazines and nobody seems to have them. Seems like an opportunity for somebody.
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What Paper Target Did You Shoot Today

Peashooter
Sorry forgot to mention, i was as usual lately shooting my .177 Epic airguns Two using 13 grain Zan slugs at 980 fps.

Some of the footage are speed up and a little slowed down.
I dont want to do the recording of me shredding the black area of 4 targets at 75 M, CUZ i was shooting for 18 minutes or so, so even at 6 X speed it will be a long video.

Temperatures on the way up here, which sadly also mean more wind and more rain, so probably not any shooting for a week or so.

Or that is i now have my materials to make explosive targets, so i will probably have to test one or two of those on Saturday.
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N/A  Aselkon Emperedor LS4

DesertSilver
Motorhead said:
The Aselkon branding are made in TURKEY quite likely coming out of the same manufacturing facility at KRAL.
There fit and finish ( Appearance wise ) looks a cut above typical turk workmanship in the Kral line ... IMO

The branding never took hold here in the states, but Canada ( Wes at AirGunFun ) was selling some a few years back, tho no idea on current status ?
Track record for the TURK guns is at or nearly ZERO parts or service support :cry: so IMO ... if investing into the brand, be able to work on it yourself & fix whatever might fail yourself.

Just looked where your located ( Lebanon ) .... so if you find the product support in your part of the world to be there ? Go for it !!
Accuracy in these guns appeared very good ... Power not an issue either ... THO ? What power rating your able to buy in your region is an unknown ?

Good luck ...
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I thought Thammer was selling them?
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N/A  What’s the most efficient PCP hand pump today?

Elbowgrease
If your going to hand pump then just get a reliable pump that will last and can be rebuilt down the road if needed. Like a Hill hand pump. I hand pumped for 6 years. Hand a few pumps. Hill is the way to go based on what I have used. I now have a compressor and a bottle. Ill still use the pump every now and then. Currently have 2 hills and 1 fx pump.
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QD picatinny adapter for tripod

Dairyboy
I'm looking for a pic rail adapter that has a QD lever that I can leave on my tripod instead of having to leave an ARCA adapter on my guns which can be slightly annoying as they are fairly bulky. All my airguns have picatinny rails so I have adapters on all my guns but am hoping to not need them. Do they make something like that? One would imagine they do but haven't found something in my searches.
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