Airguns and preppers. The problems with airguns.

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Hi lads, I don't consider myself a prepper, but I like to have some canned food and a few gadgets, like emergency radio receiver, solar powered battery charger and so.

I know that this topic may not apply on the EEUU where firearms and ammo are common and widespread available, but here in old Europe (the continent that once ruled the world), I think that ammo will ran off pretty quick, on a SHTF situation like the one described by Selco Begovic and his experience on a sieged city with no basic supplies for a year, or a more drastic pandemic, or maybe a carrington effect provoqued by a solar flare or just the gradual turdholation of our countries reaching a social collapse with basic supply chain interruptions.

Well... few civilians posess firearms here, plus the amount of ammo you can store is also limited and controlled, but with airguns, at least for the moment, they are generally more tolerant and a good alternative, not that much for self defense, but for hunting.

You can store much more pellets, but eventually they may ran off as well... so 1rst question:

What are the alternatives? Clay pellets? Compacted aluminium foil pellet somehow midly casted with a ligther? melted bottle plastic with also a lighter? Carved playwood pellets with a nail? soldering tin pellets? Asuming you don't have lead or ways to cast metal into pellets, just junk, what will you use to feed your airgun, not ruin too much the barrel and put a stable flight and impact?

The other problem is the regular degradation of the o-rings and that other white plastic thingy that seals the valve that if you dare to take it out and watch it in a way that he felt unconfortable, will lead to permanent leakage, the more complex and sensible mechanism of an airgun compared to a regular firearm is a big handicap for the apocalypse.
A posible solution is to just have many spares, how will you store them to last for forever? I have a stupid o-ring spare that I never used, and the other day it start spilling ''something'' on its own, I don't think it's even usable anymore. Can you cast O-ring and valve seals subtitutes out of junk? Cause I tried once to repair the white thingy that seals the pp800, rotating it against the seal to take ''perfect shape'', try to shape it myself with a machine, hottening it and it was no use... I just have to purchase a pack of aliexpress spares and out of 5, only 1 worked, so, this is a problem.


I watch a crappy Van Damme movie where future people shoot each other with airguns made out of junk and I thoug... Hm... this may not be unrealistic in Europe, but how do they made the O-rings and seals? uh?

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I personally stock up on a variety of spare parts, ammo, batteries and many things I use regularly. I keep extra AA and AAA batteries and others that I might need to run radios, flashlights and so on. I keep more powder ammo than most and have stocked up on bb’s, pellets, co2 cartridges and maintenance supplies for air guns and powder burners. I try to keep storage foods on hand and plenty of gas in both cars. Am I worried about an invasion? No but hurricane season is here and tornadoes are a year around concern. The last couple of years have seen some serious infrastructure problems around the U.S. Storms, fires and more have caused populated areas to not have power, water or access to food. I’d like to be able to get through a couple of months if need be without much outside support.

Rick H.
 
I think airguns would be extremely useful items. They're something that will allow you to hunt small and medium sized game and dispatch pests effectively and quietly and in either .177 or .22 you can stockpile several thousand pellets without spending a crazy amount of money. Get 5000 or more and you're realistically looking at a lifetime supply, considering you would be only using them as needed.

I wouldn't envision ever using them defensively though.
 
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I personally stock up on a variety of spare parts, ammo, batteries and many things I use regularly. I keep extra AA and AAA batteries and others that I might need to run radios, flashlights and so on. I keep more powder ammo than most and have stocked up on bb’s, pellets, co2 cartridges and maintenance supplies for air guns and powder burners. I try to keep storage foods on hand and plenty of gas in both cars. Am I worried about an invasion? No but hurricane season is here and tornadoes are a year around concern. The last couple of years have seen some serious infrastructure problems around the U.S. Storms, fires and more have caused populated areas to not have power, water or access to food. I’d like to be able to get through a couple of months if need be without much outside support.

Rick H.
Yeah, I can easily envision something like Covid happening again, but this time in a much more lethal form or the war in Ukraine spreading to NATO countries. It's not something I obsess about, but I like to have some measure of insurance just in case the worst happens. I don't expect to have a flood or a house fire either, but I still keep an insurance policy.
 
Nah... I also make slingshots with theraband gold and all that, and the bands have a limited duration, plus the theraband itself will degrade over time.
LOL ! No rubber in the sling shot I was referring to haha. I should have included a pic as I do not communicate smoothly when typing Sorry about that !
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No rubber to degrade here LOL


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100 500ct tins of .22s will give you 50,000 shots. There are about 18,000 days in a 50 year period. This means with 100 tins you can take about 3 shots a day every day for 50 years. If you buy 200 tins you have 6 shots a day for the same 50 year period.

My advice, if this is something you take seriously: get a decent springer like Sqwirl suggested, a few backup oring and spring sets, and drop the investment on 200 tins of pellets. Don’t worry about ammo alternatives. Crosman Premiers cost ~$10 a pop. For 2k—the cost of a nice PCP—you’ll never run out of ammo in your lifetime, even if you try.

Then your only problem is making room to store it all.
 
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IF there is ever a SHTF scenario when you are fighting for your life and you are relying on a air rifle, let alone those underpowered in most of Europe, and you think that those coming for you are only going to come bare handed or with a air rifle , to impose THEIR will on you.....you better wake up out of that dream. It has never went down like that before and won't . THAT'S why you have been disarmed.
 
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