20cal we should not tell about AOA, but the cat is out of the bag. Be Well Brothers, Bandito.
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Both ends.Yours has the "Made in USA" stamp at rear of tube and also looks like it's thicker in the grip than the slab sides. Can you post a photo of the tube slot with the pump handle fully open like example photo here. I'd like to see if it has the pump head for a leather seal or for the updated hy-car flat top seal. That will determine if its a 1949 or 1950 gun.
It brings back memories for me too except I was the other guy with the Daisy.Thank you for this post, it sure brings back fond memories. I was the envy of the neighborhood as my Benji out shot all the Daisys and Crosmans. Been looking for one forever, you scored, enjoy!
Marty, That looks a lot like an updated pump head without the felt pad and retainer. Hard to say if it was originally leather or a hy-car rubber flat top. That is the only way I've found to differentiate between a 1949 or 1950 manufacture date for OP gun.
That's a hy-car flat top piston head. The rubber is molded to the pump head. If that's your yardsale gun, with the two piece bolt, then it is a 1950 gun. They went to a curved one piece bolt handle in 1951.Does this help?View attachment 538713
Excellent! That bottom picture answered my next question.Marty, That looks a lot like an updated pump head without the felt pad and retainer. Hard to say if it was originally leather or a hy-car rubber flat top. That is the only way I've found to differentiate between a 1949 or 1950 manufacture date for OP gun.
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Hello I'm inquiring about results of your find?Marty, That looks a lot like an updated pump head without the felt pad and retainer. Hard to say if it was originally leather or a hy-car rubber flat top. That is the only way I've found to differentiate between a 1949 or 1950 manufacture date for OP gun.
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Is that all ya got? Must be more to it...my 2 are not 317’s but I love the old Benjamin rifles.
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The "MADE IN USA" stamp was first rolled on the front of the Benjamin rifle tubes in mid-1947. It was moved to the rear of tube in 1948. Notice the example gun in top pic has an inverted "BENJAMIN FRANKLIN" stamp. That "oops" can also be found on the Model 720 repeaters made during that same time frame.Hello I'm inquiring about results of your find?
When did Benjamin add and remove (Made in USA) from the 317s?
From the conversation here I understand that an original rubber plunger, is a 50 model. What is different on the 51 model?
Original leather plunger on a 317, is a 49, down to ??
Thanks I appreciate y'all.
Assuming you mean a rebuild...I'd give Mike a call. Tell him Marty sent you.So who is the go to person to do a complete restoration?
Assuming has made me look like the first three letters sometimes. I am looking for ground up restoration that is, except the woodwork.Assuming you mean a rebuild...I'd give Mike a call. Tell him Marty sent you.
Mike Baker
12050 E. Ladera CT.
Cornville, AZ 86325
503-706-9512