Air Arms How accurate is a springer- really

Hi all. This is my attempt to answer the age old question of what practical accuracy can be expected from a springer, quirks included. With no wind to speak of and my TX shooting well it seemed like a good time to see what it could do from my favorite position, sitting using a set of old Stony Point Shooting sticks. My personal standard for good accuracy is anything less than 2 MOA, which is approximately 0.50” at 25 yards or 0.70” at 35 yards.

I started off shooting from 25 yards, and as expected with that rifle, the first shot went a bit low. The other four shots went a little high and right. The second group continued that trend with a reasonably tight cluster high and right. Groups three and four showed nice tight groups, still a bit right but lower. POI shifting a bit lower after ten shots is not unexpected with that rifle, and one of the “quirks” I was referring to. The tendency to hit a bit right may be simply the result of how I timed the shot, or something else, who knows.

After finishing at 25 yards, I moved to 35 yards to confirm my zero. The group made the cut at under 2 MOA, but was a bit high and just a little left. Why was it a little left instead of right like I had seen at 25 yards? Might have been a wind effect, might have been me, who knows.

The take away I think is that a good springer can be very accurate at short ranges, but may subject to a little more POI drift than a regulated PCP or a high quality rimfire. And of course there is the problem of position sensitivity. I would expect to have to adjust my zero were I to shoot the same rifle from the bench. A PCP or rimfire might show some shift in POI depending on position, but nowhere near as much in my experience.

Have a good evening.
Chuck
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I read this article a few years ago by Tom Gaylord after I noticed drift to the left and then drift to the right at different distances when shooting a particular spring rifle. Initially I thought it might be a bad scope but Mr Gaylord’s article made sense to me. I didn’t fix to problem however I compensated for it at different distances.
Gary

 
I’d say your number three and number four are pretty damn good.
I'd agree with you on group size but if you are hunting and expecting to hit what you are aiming at..in that case I'd pick probably 5&4.. and 1&2 you might accidentally hit what you are aiming at assuming that first shot was the bullseye one.. good groups are no good in hunting if all shots are in the same spot but say above the squirrel head..
but seriously you did some good shooting..
curious is that the TX 200 ?
Mark
 
Well that’s certainly a good looking card.

If you want a more representative idea of your rifle’s capabilities, you’re going to need to shoot bigger groups. In the order 20-30 shots to get some statistically significant results.

I’d be very curious to see you repeat this with a 30 shot group. If your bull gets destroyed you can always use multiple cards and then transfer the shots to a master card via a marker
 
I'd agree with you on group size but if you are hunting and expecting to hit what you are aiming at..in that case I'd pick probably 5&4.. and 1&2 you might accidentally hit what you are aiming at assuming that first shot was the bullseye one.. good groups are no good in hunting if all shots are in the same spot but say above the squirrel head..
but seriously you did some good shooting..
curious is that the TX 200 ?
Mark
It was a TX200HC tuned down to around 11 ft-lb. I didn’t warm up the rifle or re-zero for this session as you might for competition. Even for hunting I like to take a shot or two to verify zero before going out. For tiny targets like house sparrows changes in wind conditions can make a difference. I sometimes wonder if a full power gun shooting at 13 ft-lb might be less susceptible to POI shifts, but I seem to shoot tighter groups with the rifle tuned down a bit.
 
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Well that’s certainly a good looking card.

If you want a more representative idea of your rifle’s capabilities, you’re going to need to shoot bigger groups. In the order 20-30 shots to get some statistically significant results.

I’d be very curious to see you repeat this with a 30 shot group. If your bull gets destroyed you can always use multiple cards and then transfer the shots to a master card via a marker
If you want you can overlay these groups to see what a twenty shot group from a cold rifle would look like. I agree, five shot groups don’t tell you much, but in this case I wanted to show changes as the rifle warmed up. When working up loads for centerfire I do shoot ten shot groups and find I get more repeatable group size that way.
 
I read this article a few years ago by Tom Gaylord after I noticed drift to the left and then drift to the right at different distances when shooting a particular spring rifle. Initially I thought it might be a bad scope but Mr Gaylord’s article made sense to me. I didn’t fix to problem however I compensated for it at different distances.
Gary

I am just a recreational shooter at this point so minor shifts in POI with distance are more a matter of curiosity than anything else. I have done the mirror alignment thing in the past to make sure the elevation adjustment was aligned with the bore. That did seem to help in at least one situation. To really chase down more subtle effects an indoor range would be a big help.
 
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By coincidence I was just watching a “how to” video and the guy was shooting a UK spec TX200. It had some good tips in it, he liked a moderator on his for the reduced barrel flip. Fast forward to minute 9:30 to see him put 3 pellets in the same hole at 40 yards from a prone position on the ground.
 
@Michigander - Those are some great groups! What kind of scope and rings are you using? I highly recommend some BKL rings. They are made in The Great State of Texas and really help center the scope on the rifle. Hawke scopes seem to always work for me and they have an excellent lifetime warranty.

I tried some budget rings once and I spent two weeks pulling my hair out. Replaced them with a set of BKL low rings. Ended up replacing the scope also and all my accuracy issues went away. Now I only use BKL rings and Hawke scopes now.

 
Hi all. This is my attempt to answer the age old question of what practical accuracy can be expected from a springer, quirks included. With no wind to speak of and my TX shooting well it seemed like a good time to see what it could do from my favorite position, sitting using a set of old Stony Point Shooting sticks. My personal standard for good accuracy is anything less than 2 MOA, which is approximately 0.50” at 25 yards or 0.70” at 35 yards.

I started off shooting from 25 yards, and as expected with that rifle, the first shot went a bit low. The other four shots went a little high and right. The second group continued that trend with a reasonably tight cluster high and right. Groups three and four showed nice tight groups, still a bit right but lower. POI shifting a bit lower after ten shots is not unexpected with that rifle, and one of the “quirks” I was referring to. The tendency to hit a bit right may be simply the result of how I timed the shot, or something else, who knows.

After finishing at 25 yards, I moved to 35 yards to confirm my zero. The group made the cut at under 2 MOA, but was a bit high and just a little left. Why was it a little left instead of right like I had seen at 25 yards? Might have been a wind effect, might have been me, who knows.

The take away I think is that a good springer can be very accurate at short ranges, but may subject to a little more POI drift than a regulated PCP or a high quality rimfire. And of course there is the problem of position sensitivity. I would expect to have to adjust my zero were I to shoot the same rifle from the bench. A PCP or rimfire might show some shift in POI depending on position, but nowhere near as much in my experience.

Have a good evening.
Chuck
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I wish I could shoot a springer as good as you. Then again I've never had a "good" one. Nice shooting!
 
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@Michigander - Those are some great groups! What kind of scope and rings are you using? I highly recommend some BKL rings. They are made in The Great State of Texas and really help center the scope on the rifle. Hawke scopes seem to always work for me and they have an excellent lifetime warranty.

I tried some budget rings once and I spent two weeks pulling my hair out. Replaced them with a set of BKL low rings. Ended up replacing the scope also and all my accuracy issues went away. Now I only use BKL rings and Hawke scopes now.

I generally use UTG rings. Call them budget if you will, but they work. I like the anti-recoil pin for springers.
 
@Michigander - Those are some great groups! What kind of scope and rings are you using? I highly recommend some BKL rings. They are made in The Great State of Texas and really help center the scope on the rifle. Hawke scopes seem to always work for me and they have an excellent lifetime warranty.

I tried some budget rings once and I spent two weeks pulling my hair out. Replaced them with a set of BKL low rings. Ended up replacing the scope also and all my accuracy issues went away. Now I only use BKL rings and Hawke scopes now.

I am a fan of SportsMatch rings, I use them on both airguns and rimfire. I have used BKL on 13 mm rails, and they work well also. The scope is an older Bushnell 4-16 Elite from Japan.
 
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Have seen my friends TX200 do MOA all the way out to 50yds with some winds. They are stupid accurate which is why they are so widely used in Field Target and benchrest comps all over the world. Love my HW97 but that TX200 is just more accurate. Can get pictures if needed but im sure many many TX owners can attest to the same. From a bench of course.
 
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Have seen my friends TX200 do MOA all the way out to 50yds with some winds. They are stupid accurate which is why they are so widely used in Field Target and benchrest comps all over the world. Love my HW97 but that TX200 is just more accurate. Can get pictures if needed but im sure many many TX owners can attest to the same. From a bench of course.
MOA at 50 yards is 1/2”. It happens, but not consistently for me. I will take the blame for that.