Tariffs Explained - Pyramyd AIR Insyder

Yep... we stay home most of the time these days. Fortunately we have everything we enjoy doing right here. There are 2 acres of woods and fields between us and our nearest neighbor and we own one and a half of them.
We live on half the income as we did before I retired but we enjoy life twice as much.
 
off topic but I remember $1 gallon diesel.. but then I remember almost crying when it was up around $5 gallon and I pumped 100 gallons in the truck 😳
I've been noticing it's going down here a little $3.50 gas or diesel.. but on SS now I just prefer to stay home and cut wood or something..
Mark
We do have to ignore the fact that fuel prices have far out stripped inflation or base barrel of oil costs. And the continuing string of quarterly record profits.

Must insure that investors receive their returns...
 
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Lots of talk here about material things... I'm afraid this whole thing is going to go way deeper than that. Lives could be destroyed.
That's all I got on the subject.
While the base economic conditions are different the last time broad based tariffs were implemented was the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act of 1930. Followed by a *slight* economic downturn, called the "Depression".

As I stated before, there is no economic data that shows broad based tariffs to work. Primary historical effects are inflation and recession.

Retaliatory trade wars just make those effects worse.
 
We do have to ignore the fact that fuel prices have far out stripped inflation or base barrel of oil costs. And the continuing string of quarterly record profits.

Must insure that investors receive their returns...
yes I was just referring to the comment about old memories.. I seem to remember that things were better back then, but like was said, maybe selective memory of the good things..
family, friends and such
which actually is probably a good thing, would hate to only have bad memories..
we all have so much to be thankful for though, I just ate a good hot breakfast, got to sleep in a warm bed, got up to a warm house and fire in the wood stove.. these are simple things that unfortunately everyone doesn't have..
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The American Military Industrial Complex is the largest importer by volume than any other industry sector in the US.

So, instead of spending more than 2 trillion USD of our money to ensure Iran gained control of Iraq and the Taliban gained control of Afghanistan; the US Government should have invested our money on industries in our country, employing our people, to build all the parts for the the weapon systems we Americans need to defend America.

This one act would have lowered our trade deficit and the amount of debt we carry with the rest of the World.

Now I know our government would have to borrow from us to accomplish this but more of the interest payments we are paying now would be paid to us.

However, Americans define a government helping its own people as being socialist and Americans can't have that, so here we are in a tariff war with countries we are are paying a massive amount of interest to. Countries that will use our money, we earned from our labor, to support their needs ........ not ours.
 
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I see there is great passion on this- as it should be. I believe there will be uncertainty for a few weeks/ months. But countries will see tariffs as futile against the U.S. , they will lower theirs to get us to lower ours. In the end, products become more affordable. My humble belief is 2-3 months turmoil and great settling of the markets afterwards. Hell, maybe pay even starts to even up to costs. This has happened before. I think by August, at the latest, things will iron out.
 
yes I was just referring to the comment about old memories.. I seem to remember that things were better back then, but like was said, maybe selective memory of the good things..
family, friends and such
which actually is probably a good thing, would hate to only have bad memories..
we all have so much to be thankful for though, I just ate a good hot breakfast, got to sleep in a warm bed, got up to a warm house and fire in the wood stove.. these are simple things that unfortunately everyone doesn't have..
Mark
I think the reality is that many things actually were better then, but many things were also much worse and we just accepted them as they seemed like things we had no control over. I remember back when I was a kid it seemed like most men smoked, now it’s only a small percentage. Cancer was almost always a death sentence as well, but my buddies and I took rifles with us to school and kept them behind the seat of my best friends truck so that we could leave to go hunting after school let out on Fridays. We didn’t hide what we were doing because nobody ever shot up their school back then and the idea of doing so was bizarre.
 
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1977 just out of High school ... gas 34 cents a gallon and filling up my "75" Hilux Toyota pickup was $5 ... no lie !!
I remember in the late 60's my father had a 1960 Chevy Impala it would cost about $3 to get full tank of gas.....19/gals. We own and live in a 3 unit apartment that cost us 10K and pay off in 1 or 2 years. Those were the Golden Years in California and America. That why I call my grandfather, father and uncles mini-TRUMP they own 16-60 property. Today you would need to make 6M-10M what it used to be then. Our government destroy our economy in America.
 
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We have a tough time competing with the much of the rest of the world due to the dollars status as a reserve currency. It makes the value of our currency artificially high and that makes the price of our exports higher than the competition.

There are a lot of positive things that come from having a reserve currency, but it’s a double edged sword.

That's why Scott Bessent and many others are calling for a "Bretton Woods 2.0".

The tarrifs are a step toward a level playing field in a multipolar economic order. It sets the planned chain of events in motion that leads to a new world reserve currency, which will be backed by gold and other hard assets but use distributed ledger tech, probably XRP ledger or something very similar for atomic & instant cross-border settlement. Therefore this new convertible currency becomes the new world reserve currency, or like a new type of SDR, and USD JPY CNY EUR and so on are essentially all on equal footing.

This is why the currency manipulation and tactics some countries are using has to stop before this goes live. But, assuredly, even nations that appear to be hostile are all playing out the script which leads to what has already been agreed upon.

The other part is a domestic reordering, such as using tariffs to replace the IRS (I believe no taxes for those making under $200k / year is the latest proposal to be floated publicly).

Good time to think like an investor and not be reactionary. We're about to enter a full blown tech revolution.

I happily received my beautiful brass made-in-USA hose nozzle today. Enough with the Chinese Wal-Mart crap, already. This nozzle will last a lifetime, guaranteed.
 
Just want everyone complaining about the rich and their profits to just consider that every single cool thing you have that makes your life better and easier is the result of some rich person or corporation. The incentive to make money and not have it some how limited is what drives this production and innovation. Heck I want the pockets of guys like Elon to grow to the point of exploding maybe 3 times over. The guy does amazing things. I want the profits of FEDEX to be through the roof as it puts food on the table and a roof over my family’s head. Grateful for what I have and the opportunity to be one of those greedy rich people is out there for everyone.
Kind of pointed it out for me personally but they also provide 1000’s of jobs that support the majority of people.
 
I see there is great passion on this- as it should be. I believe there will be uncertainty for a few weeks/ months. But countries will see tariffs as futile against the U.S. , they will lower theirs to get us to lower ours. In the end, products become more affordable. My humble belief is 2-3 months turmoil and great settling of the markets afterwards. Hell, maybe pay even starts to even up to costs. This has happened before. I think by August, at the latest, things will iron out.
I find it kind of funny that the ChiCom leaders speak of just getting new/replacement trading partners. Like it would be simple - turning on a light switch. But if it was so easy, it would have been done before.

There is so much that I do not know. But I do know that US consumers like to spend money, and US & OUS economies benefit significantly because of this. And when prices go up, savvy US consumers (where possible - not daily necessities) reduce their buying. Reduced buying means demand for fewer goods. Demand for fewer goods means fewer manufacturing jobs (which seem, these days, to be mostly OUS). Fewer manufacturing jobs means less money in workers pockets, which leads to their questioning their dear leaders. Dear leaders don't like to be questioned by the masses (especially coming off things like a (China) push to go into debt to get a college degree followed by no good paying jobs, and huge failures in the real estate development market because folks could no longer afford to even think about purchasing the millions of homes being built).

No, if it was quick, easy, economical and feasible to lose your ability to sell in the US market and fill that void with a different market, it would already have been done. But the reality is that the US market is just too large and valuable to lose.

So if things don't sell, prices will have to be brought down, and I see that having to come from the manufacturing (more than distribution/sales) side.

Or a route will have to be found by the leadership to deal with the current US administration, without losing face. Too much questioning by the masses, who are out of jobs, for too long a period can lead to revolutions.

It is a bit of a shame that US companies aren't really poised to increase production at US facilities, mainly due to so many regulations and restrictions. I never understood why the government in states like CA wanted to regulate things like cattle due to their polluting methane emissions. Great, regulate more businesses to death and send more of our food supply out of the US and into, say, Mexico. That way all of the methane emissions would no longer effect us as they would be stopped at the International Border?

Note: This all comes from a Biologist, not an Economist. But then again, I seen some things...
 
That's why Scott Bessent and many others are calling for a "Bretton Woods 2.0".

The tarrifs are a step toward a level playing field in a multipolar economic order. It sets the planned chain of events in motion that leads to a new world reserve currency, which will be backed by gold and other hard assets but use distributed ledger tech, probably XRP ledger or something very similar for atomic & instant cross-border settlement. Therefore this new convertible currency becomes the new world reserve currency, or like a new type of SDR, and USD JPY CNY EUR and so on are essentially all on equal footing.

This is why the currency manipulation and tactics some countries are using has to stop before this goes live. But, assuredly, even nations that appear to be hostile are all playing out the script which leads to what has already been agreed upon.

The other part is a domestic reordering, such as using tariffs to replace the IRS (I believe no taxes for those making under $200k / year is the latest proposal to be floated publicly).

Good time to think like an investor and not be reactionary. We're about to enter a full blown tech revolution.

I happily received my beautiful brass made-in-USA hose nozzle today. Enough with the Chinese Wal-Mart crap, already. This nozzle will last a lifetime, guaranteed.
Having the dollar as a reserve currency has gutted our manufacturing base, but shifting away from it will be devastating. We've basically had access to endless amounts of cheap debt and the ability to expand our money supply recklessly for decades now.

For those of you who haven't given it much thought, (speaking to the general audience), the US dollar is what's called a reserve currency. It's basically what the entire world wants to trade in. When Saudi Arabia sells oil or Brazil sells soybeans they don't want to get paid in Rupees or Pesos, they want dollars and when investors around the world want a safe and stable investment, they want US treasuries. Because the dollar is in demand, it's value gets pushed up much higher than it otherwise would be and that makes our wages here in the US much higher compared to other countries around the world, and that incentivizes industry to manufacture products abroad where labor is cheaper.

On the other hand, since everybody wants US treasuries, we get a great interest rate when we finance our national debt. Other countries would have to pay much more interest to do the same thing and would find their economies in crises. We can also print more money than we should be able to. If Japan prints money, they are just printing money for their population of 120 million and if they print too much inflation will go wild. When we do the same thing however we're not just printing money for the 340 million Americans. There is an entire world that wants US dollars, so we can print much more money than our population would warrant and not see nearly as much inflation as we otherwise would.

If the US dollar stops being the worlds reserve currency, then we can expect to see our interest rates go up significantly and the cost of financing our national debt will explode. At that point we'll be in the same kind of position that Greece was in about a decade ago.
 
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although I like reading the comments, and I agree with most of them, yes you'll know from the likes I did who you are.. lots of great information and points but I'm afraid this thread will get locked because of political posts.. before I can find out my last question as far as..

How do the terrifs affect the classified section??
do terrifs affect used private sales??
if so who and when do they get paid? or do you find out whatever deal you just made and paid for is a total loss because now you owe more.. I just think it would be good for people to know, maybe a notice at the top of the classified section to only do in country business depending on how it actually works..
like a buyer beware of whatever the facts are so you know what you are getting into..
again, not that it matters so much for what I want to currently do, but I'd like to know just out of curiosity.. and well I would think it would be good information for people to know..

please if a moderator reads this post, since apparently no one has a clue how the terrifs affect the classified section, maybe you could find out somehow?
I just don't know how to research it.
Mark
 
although I like reading the comments, and I agree with most of them, yes you'll know from the likes I did who you are.. lots of great information and points but I'm afraid this thread will get locked because of political posts.. before I can find out my last question as far as..

How do the terrifs affect the classified section??
do terrifs affect used private sales??
if so who and when do they get paid? or do you find out whatever deal you just made and paid for is a total loss because now you owe more.. I just think it would be good for people to know, maybe a notice at the top of the classified section to only do in country business depending on how it actually works..
like a buyer beware of whatever the facts are so you know what you are getting into..
again, not that it matters so much for what I want to currently do, but I'd like to know just out of curiosity.. and well I would think it would be good information for people to know..

please if a moderator reads this post, since apparently no one has a clue how the terrifs affect the classified section, maybe you could find out somehow?
I just don't know how to research it.
Mark
Mark,

The tariffs being discussed are import tariffs. That's where they apply. So your transaction with someone for a product that is already within the US, should not be subject to an import tariff.

If you were to purchase something from another country that is shipped directly to you, the way duties/tariffs are collected can vary. In my experience, I have been given a bill directly from the US based shipping company that handled the package stateside to pay upon receipt of the goods or shortly after receipt (have had this happen with both UPS and Fedex). Sometimes, USPS will hold a package at the local PO and you will have to pay those fees when you pick it up.

Hope that helps.

Tyler
 
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I Know it has been touched on, but the absolute bottom line questions remain the same...

1) Is it fair business practice to charge the "new" tariff pricing on existing (old) inventory?
2) Do you think for 1 second the Pricing will EVER go back down, tariff or no tariff?

The resounding answer is HELL NO !!!

The theory/practice has been put to the test back in the Covid Ideocracy of price gouging... this tariff BS is no different I don't care how you spin it.
 
That is how it is with gasoline prices in Denmark, and even if the very most of that price is actually taxes.
But if the price on oil go up, so do the gasoline price at once, but if the oil price fall it take a bloody long time before gasoline here fall in price.

We vote,,,,, we pay.
Here 17 or so parties covering the entire spectrum, IMO none of them worthy of trust so i have not voted in several decades.
I still consider myself guilty though.
 
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