I guess I need to...

...Put my proverbial tail between my legs and admit that I said some not overly nice things about the American Air Arms, EVOL Mini .22. some time back.

I got one today.
The bad - NOT cheap.

Ok, now that that's said, that's all there seems to be in that column. So...the good -

1. The first thing that I noticed was the balance and how well it shoulders. Yeah, it's somewhat short, but I've had other guns similarly short that don't sit as well at the shoulder.

2. I noticed that the guys at American Air Arms have done a top notch job in the machining of the details. Had a coupla things apart for a quick look. A VERY big thumbs up to those guys for taking the time to design and to high tolerance work in their machining. I almost fell over when I removed the muffler shroud. NO...other gun that I have (more than a few..) has class 3A threads (none better). By the time that you get two or three full threads engaged, there is NO play or looseness in the mating parts.

3. This class 3A thread continues. And I'd imagine that it continues through the gun.

4. Similar to the threads, the cocking lever is also a nice snug fit, but very smooth movement within the receiver. As is the fit of the magazine. I bought a second, both slide in with the same fit. And yeah, the magazine - While I'm not a fan of the reverse installation of the first pellet, the smoothness of the parts that make up the magazine is again, top notch design and machining.

5. The pellet probe is also well stabilized with the receiver. There's a LOT of guns, that the designers/machining operations, didn't do as well.

6. While I didn't and don't really plan to take the gun any further apart, as I understand it, these guns have fewer o-rings than most high dollar (and probably cheaper too) guns, and they have fewer parts.
As a Test Engineer (before retiring), part of my required duties was to design test fixtures. Each and every part that goes into a Satellite gets "Proof Load tested" in one form or another. Yes, I've even tested nuts and bolts !
One thing that I learned very early in my carrier... It's really easy to design expensive, complicated parts to do a particular job. It's much more difficult to design things...cheap and simple...to do the SAME task, as the expensive, complicated thing.
The American Air Arms guys have done the, well, not so cheap..(!), but very simple, very nicely done design work. A thumbs up the these guys (and girls ?).

Grip changed to suit, fore end hand support added, and looking at a different stock. Don't care for THAT decision ! Loose and sloppy. There's a nice wood one that's made for the AR configuration that I may try. My ACOG sight came off of my Impact, M3 and onto the EVOL Mini. The muffler is a little loud. I may attempt to play with that a little.
I've only put one magazine through it as I don't have any air right now. So pellet culling, and me getting used to the gun, the trigger and all will have to wait a coupla days.

A friend reminded me..."you can't take it (money !) with you". So, I bought one of these EVOL Mini's, so far, glad I did.

Mike
 
Oh yeah, a tripod, bipod and a monopod are on the way... I thought about using my camera monopod..! See if it makes me a 100% shooter.

Received some heavy, 25gr. pellets to try in the new EVOL today.

I swapped the grip again, to an ATI x2 AR Grip. It's longer than normal (front to rear), but it's kinda skinny side to side. I think I like the fatter Magpul, K2-XL better. Not as long (front to rear as the ATI) but I like the width (fatter) better. Sort of-a Government, 1911 (.45 cal) feel.

Yeah, the stressed barrel assembly, while NOT as strong as the Edgun, Lelya and Matador (as has been suggested by some), it is built stronger/tougher than most as far as rough handling. I don't feel bad grabbing the gun by the barrel to lift it.
It should also be MUCH better at handling the pellet "shot" as far as vibration (harmonics) that everyone seems to be all in a knot about with their FX guns.

Learning the trigger. I'd like to be able to adjust it without a complete gun dismantle !

The pressure gauge and fill probe location seems a "no brainer" so to speak. ALL other gun manufacturers NEED to look into...MAYBE...copy ! Interesting using PSI instead of Bar for the gauge calibration (United States stuff !). Gotta remember that when filling.

Mike
 
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As a Test Engineer (before retiring), part of my required duties was to design test fixtures. Each and every part that goes into a Satellite gets "Proof Load tested" in one form or another. Yes, I've even tested nuts and bolts !
One thing that I learned very early in my carrier... It's really easy to design expensive, complicated parts to do a particular job. It's much more difficult to design things...cheap and simple...to do the SAME task, as the expensive, complicated thing.


Mike
Mike,
Whom did you work for? I work at NTS, if you're in testing, I'm sure you've heard of us. I design, machine, assemble and test all sorts of products for the last 18 years.
I know what you mean about Expensive, Complicated Parts, we had one of our design groups spend $20k on design of a fixture to load a spherical bearing with 5,000 pounds while the shaft was rotated. I could of had it done in a couple days, using a 10K load cell, some All thread and a frame. A stepper motor with gear reduction (just in case) and direct drive the shaft off the gear reduction.

The PM went with the Hydraulic servo option, still hasn't started the life cycles.................But what do I know, I didn't graduate from college. ;)

Smitty
 
Mike,
Whom did you work for? I work at NTS, if you're in testing, I'm sure you've heard of us. I design, machine, assemble and test all sorts of products for the last 18 years.
I know what you mean about Expensive, Complicated Parts, we had one of our design groups spend $20k on design of a fixture to load a spherical bearing with 5,000 pounds while the shaft was rotated. I could of had it done in a couple days, using a 10K load cell, some All thread and a frame. A stepper motor with gear reduction (just in case) and direct drive the shaft off the gear reduction.

The PM went with the Hydraulic servo option, still hasn't started the life cycles.................But what do I know, I didn't graduate from college. ;)

Smitty
Early on, I worked for a few smaller Aircraft places.
Then with the aircraft crash of the 90's I was outa work for a while. Used to be work was ALL over, not then.

A friend got me into TRW in Redondo Beach CA. TRW was bought by Northrup Grumman. I worked at TRW / Northrup for one month shy of 20 years.
I actually worked "with" NTS, MANY years ago (Anaheim as I recall), when I was working the smaller Aircraft companies. The smaller companies didn't have the money for much larger, or in depth testing. so they would go to outside companies.

Mike
 
"Oh yeah, a tripod, bipod and a monopod are on the way... I thought about using my camera monopod..! See if it makes me a 100% shooter."
Aren't you the one that started a thread about not needing any support for shooting and thought that is was a bad idea?
He is and he's an utter ahole for wasting all the people's time who posted a well thought out response to it.

You're talking about this thread.

 
"Oh yeah, a tripod, bipod and a monopod are on the way... I thought about using my camera monopod..! See if it makes me a 100% shooter."
Aren't you the one that started a thread about not needing any support for shooting and thought that is was a bad idea?
Oh boy...
I thought it was somewhat obvious that no, no crutches will be used on this or any of my other guns !
That comment...was meant as a joke .
Notice my mentioning of the "tripod", the "bipod" and...the "monopod"...! Why would anyone need three types of crutch ? One, maybe two should be plenty. And I never even mentioned a sand bag !

Mike
 
He is and he's an utter ahole for wasting all the people's time who posted a well thought out response to it.

You're talking about this thread.

CT -

An "ahole"...looked in a mirror lately ?
Why am I an ahole for posting a legitimate question ?
And WHY are you hijacking ANOTHER perfectly legitimate thread about a completely different subject ? You seem bent on trying to...I don't know hassle me, piss me off, antagonize me...whet ever your purpose, it's obvious and childish ! Are you 3 years old, maybe 4 ?

Mike
 
Yep, that's the thread.
Guess things got shakier since then?
No man, he just continues to mock everyone and let them know their way of shootin is "wrong" , he didn't post that thread for knowledge he posted that thread hoping others would validate how he feels about it , so here he is mocking the very thing he said he wanted to understand. Guys a POS.

He did the same thing 2 years ago here


He would kno ive cited this already along with many of his other posts (not all) that coincide with his aholeness if he read through his thread but he has no interest he was purely trying to ruffle feathers.

Apparently in 2 years he's learned absolutely nothing, likely due to arrogance.
 
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Great guns for sure! Really are top notch. And don't worry about the barrel system it's threaded into the receiver. No way you'll knock it out of alignment and change poi.

As far as barrel twist I'm going to assume in the 1:18" range. Can't remember if Tom mentioned it to me as it's been awhile. I just know is a 4 groove made to Tom's specs. And a great barrel at that.
 
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