So to start off I have my own opinions on what is the best budget scope. I usually go with the hawk vantage in either 4x fixed or 2x7. My purposes are general airgun hunting inside of a maximum of 50 yards but most often under 35. The purpose of this thread is to see if there have been any new developments in optics that might change my mind. I need a new scope for a 20 cal airforce talon p for my kid so a small scope like the vantage would be my preferred choice but any of your favorite scopes would be welcome. Let's cap the price at 200 dollars as this is my idea of budget. I found that at 130 dollars the vantage is durable enough even for a springer and clear enough for my purposes but looking forward to seeing if there is a cheaper alternative or clearer glass for a bit more. Thanks fellas. - Raden