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A regulated Gun will allow a full fill but still shoot a constant power level and not require you to worry about the Knee.
So if a given gun works great at 140 bar? You can fill to 250 bar and shoot until you get near fall off of Reg and should be good for every shot.
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Regulators are used so that the firing pressure stays constant regardless of the changing pressure in the air reservoir. You're "off regulator" when the pressure in your air reservoir has reached a pressure BELOW what your regulator setting is, so you are no longer firing at the set pressure that the regulator was intended to hold each shot at. As far as how many shots you will get, that will vary. The tank size of the gun, the pressure that it fills to and the volume of air used with each shot will determine how many you can get per fill. The best way is to fill the gun and shoot targets, watching your point of impact. When it starts to fall, note the number of shots that you have fired and the pressure on your guns gauge.

Just as an example, I have a Weihrauch HW100S. It fills to 200 Bar. The regulator pressure is 120 Bar. I can shoot 28 times from 200 Bar to 120 Bar. After shot 28 it is "off regulator" and the velocity of any more shots will go down quickly as will the point of impact on target. .

On a non regulated gun you usually have a range of pressure that your gun will deliver its best velocities from. Below that pressure velocities drop rapidly and above that pressure velocities will also be low as the air pressure will exceed what the firing mechanism is designed to push open for air release. Regulated guns hold consistent speeds, increasing accuracy and often enabling quite a few more shots to be taken from a charge of air. They are a good feature to have.
 
For a regulated gun you want to refill before you hit the regulator pressure, so in my case using 100 BAR in my .177 rifles, i would fill when i hit 120 BAR on the bottle pressure.

Or that is i would, but dont, CUZ you see i can not be bothered with pressures while i shoot, so my rifle are always leathered to the 12 L bottle and constantly "filling", and so my on rifle bottle / tube are always at the MAX pressure or dropping very slowly over the next many shooting sessions.
When the 12 L dive bottle are around 120 BAR i go to get it filled back up to the 300 BAR that bottle is ( i also have a 200 BAR steel bottle also 12 L in size, but i use that at home for when i tweak on the guns ASO )
As i have big ( well 0.5 L ) bottles and shoot this little caliber, i have a lot of shots in a bottle, should i decide to shoot not tethered some day, but as i generally shoot from a bench, being tethered with a 5 foot fill hose to the big dive bottle, no problem at all, and i can focus on enjoying shooting.

I also have a unregulated rifle ( old FX cyclone ) here you will see when the rifle are running low on pressure as you just do not hit anything anymore, having such a rifle you also soon get a feel for how many magazines you can shoot before you hit the limit and so avoid bad shots due to too low pressure.

So a not regulated rifle, just figure out how many good shots / magazines you have, and if you like me have a bad memory, put a single pellet aside for every magazine you shoot, that way you can count your pellets to know how many magazines you have shot.
But really if you are just plinking, then falling low on pressure dont matter much, just know when it happen its not the gun that broke you are just down on pressure and need to refill.

PS: If you have a 300 BAR main fill bottle, but the tube / bottle on the rifle only are 200 or 250 BAR, then you of course can not shoot tethered to that bottle as it is too much pressure, in that case you do need to fill in a normal way until the pressure in the big tank are down to what your equipment can handle, and then you can " plug in " permanently and just focus on shooting.

If you shoot the smaller calibers .177 or .22, you can set up the rifle to " sub 12 " if i did that on my rifles i could still shoot the 50 m / yards just fine, and on a fill i would get way more than the 4-500 shots there is in a tin of pellets, you dont need to go full power to have fun, the British being forced to shoot 12 foot pound of power ate testament to this.

You can probably also down power a larger caliber rifle, but it is mainly used on the 2 smaller calibers.

Shooting full power and 30 - 40 foot pound of power ( or more with 20 grain slugs ), i shoot 100 M distance just fine, no problem hitting a golf ball, or scare the living hell out of a fly landing on your target papers ( i have yet to hit a fly at the longer distances )
I mainly shoot 75 M though,,,,, with slugs.
 
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Is there a way to know when I’m off ref without having a chronometer or extra gauge?
@jt-outta-cali I’ve also noticed that the shots sound different what shooting shots off the reg or what some of us call “falling off the reg.” Sometimes shots sound different within the plenum (immediately after taking a shot) other times the report sounds different. Shooting my Evol, shots sound louder after falling off the reg. In my Brocock Bantam Sniper I can hear a change in the sound of air in the plenum; it makes a noticeably hollow sucking sound when refilling.

And like @Peashooter suggests, you want to refill your reservoir before falling off the reg.
 
@jt-outta-cali I’ve also noticed that the shots sound different what shooting shots off the reg or what some of us call “falling off the reg.” Sometimes shots sound different within the plenum (immediately after taking a shot) other times the report sounds different. Shooting my Evol, shots sound louder after falling off the reg. In my Brocock Bantam Sniper I can hear a change in the sound of air in the plenum; it makes a noticeably hollow sucking sound when refilling.

And like @Peashooter suggests, you want to refill your reservoir before falling off the reg.
thanks! I fill to 250 and it takes one magazine to get to 200. then from there about 3 magazines to get to 150, which is when I refill. what does this mean?
 
thanks! I fill to 250 and it takes one magazine to get to 200. then from there about 3 magazines to get to 150, which is when I refill. what does this mean?
@jt-outta-cali I have an idea or two. Which gun? What types of gague(s)? Does it have separate gauges for the regulator and the reservoir? Do you know your regulator set point? What’s the recommended maximum fill pressure for your reservoir?
 
@jt-outta-cali I was thinking it could be a cheap gauge or that you may be filling the reservoir above the recommended pressure. I have a gun with a gauge that doesn’t respond well at all. I’ve shot off the reg and the reservoir gauge showed that I’d only used 500 psi. Is your gun still under warranty? I’m not saying that I know this is your issue, simply an idea.
 
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