Hello, looking to make a PCP crossman pistol for shooting steel. Looks like crossman pistols are often used with a large amount of available aftermarket parts. I live right next to the factory and know someone who will get me a discount. What would you recommend?
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1720T's aren't available any more, but if you're close to the factory, maybe check their trash?
If you get a 1720T, you've got yourself a winner- reg it, maybe change the grips, polish the trigger internals and have at it!
If you get a 1720T, you've got yourself a winner- reg it, maybe change the grips, polish the trigger internals and have at it!
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What!! Tell me it isn't so. That is crazy, the Prod is a good one to get,it is a Benjamin though.
Another is the Crosman 1701,but there is not much to do to make it better.
You can always get an older 2240 and make it into a PCP...
Another is the Crosman 1701,but there is not much to do to make it better.
You can always get an older 2240 and make it into a PCP...
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Yep, the only real thing you can do to improve the 1701P is get some custom grips for it and tune the trigger. Not much to really "build" and they're a sweet setup right out of the box. But they aren't high powered hunters. I'd imagine you could do in a sparrow or a mouse at 10-15 yards, but they're really a lower powered target gun.
Now, I suppose you COULD build a hotrod with various tubes and parts from the 1701P, 1720T, etc... I guess there's plenty there to hop up for a determined individual with a plan. But most of what I've seen are the 22xx CO2 guns converted to HPA.
Now, I suppose you COULD build a hotrod with various tubes and parts from the 1701P, 1720T, etc... I guess there's plenty there to hop up for a determined individual with a plan. But most of what I've seen are the 22xx CO2 guns converted to HPA.
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You can always get a 1322 if you like a multi pump or get a 2240 and go nuts with mods. If accuracy is what you're after, you can get a lothar Walther barrel in a few different lengths they directly fit the crosman steel breech.
I personally wouldn't get a Prod. The breech/bolt leave something to be desired and they're not that quiet and sometimes not any more accurate than a 2240.
Yes, there are even kits to make a 1322 into a pcp.
If you want power, go pcp with it. Plenty of ways to do that too.
I personally wouldn't get a Prod. The breech/bolt leave something to be desired and they're not that quiet and sometimes not any more accurate than a 2240.
Yes, there are even kits to make a 1322 into a pcp.
If you want power, go pcp with it. Plenty of ways to do that too.
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I have a Crosman mulit- pump that hasn't failed to put a smile on my face 
So practical and simple, plus unlimited parts.
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Sheesh, I thought it was the factory. There's a huge building in Bloomfield NY, looking further it seems its their headquarters. My friend works there (thought it was a factory, guess I am not that great of a friend..) and can get an employee discount.
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He's being cute, and referring to the Craftsman series guns from Crosman, made in (you guessed it) Turkey -
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His friend could also be in China. They do have factories over there making most of the parts and new line up of guns. Crosman did hold out for a long time but if you can't beat'em....
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My vote is for a 2240 hipac conversion. Biggest problem I have with crosmans is their barrel quality has been way down for several years now on their cheaper models (2240/1322, ect) You can source lothar walther barrels, which I have done for both of mine. Modifying a 13xx can get expensive quick, well to do it right by my standards. Of course if you can make your own parts, then that isn't a big deal. The 22xx has a solid barrel band, and aside from a better barrel (which you can sometimes order cheap direcet from crosman, $50 or so, if you have the right part number) you could make a very solid shooter for not much. It's more about the journey of modifying tbh. You can simply buy some older pcps that will be phenominal for less than it takes to make of these shoot at the same level. But you'd have to know what you're looking for. Best bang for buck pistol is going to be a pp700 from krale, though. Likely 1/2 the cost (or less) than it'd take me to make a 22xx shoot at the same level.
Here's my two crosmans. Both 1322s. Wouldn't go back and do anything any different on either, though they both wound up being quite expensive.
Here's my two crosmans. Both 1322s. Wouldn't go back and do anything any different on either, though they both wound up being quite expensive.
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Hmm interesting since quite a few have mentioned that the new Crosman barrels are just as good as the LW barrels??? I'm not saying they are that's just what you read that some believe. I have a 2300S with a LW barrel and a 2289 with the Crosman barrel and from what I can tell I don't see a difference in accuracy, however I shoot mostly at 15-25 yards and have played with a 50 yard attempt plus I'm no world class shooter. I will be getting a scope and maybe I'll be able to tell the difference with optics on to hopefully give me observation on quality
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Can you tell us more about the pcp conversion for these? I've seen some on ebay from China but hesitant to order one... or another 13xx because of the money pit they become.
Everytime you post a pic of that one I friggin drool it's awesome. I even downloaded the image and look at it often. Before you say it, yes... yes I have a problem!
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You can look around on the net and find a wide variety of them. Some just screw in, others replace the entire valve and require cutting the tube. They're pretty cheap, respectively. The thread in ones that use the factory valve, you need to do your homework on. Some of the tubes are safe to use, some are a bit sketchier. I've never done a 22xx, so I don't recall the specifics, but have certainly read plenty about it. If using the factory valve, you need to pin it to the tube. But for a factory gun, I know I could personally convert it to pcp for under $100. That's not to say it will be tuned well or will be accurate, though.
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The 1322 conversion I have is a krugergun conversion kit from russia. I was sold it from the country of georgia, and they are still available on ebay or on airgunbuy website, but are not quite the same. Mine came with a very nice shroud, and precisely machined baffle stack that works extremely well. The baffles thread together inside the shroud. Actually has an airstipper that centers on the barrel and uses the rear of the shroud for sound dampening, too. I requested a shorter 200mm airtube at the time, and the seller was able to get me a 220mm tube, which now has a custom huma regulator, and I took the original 290mm tube that came with the kit at the time as well (at my expense). The barrel is a crosman LW barrel 14.5" chopped to 7.6" and re-chocked specifically for AA 16gr pellets by WHITEFANG (RIP). Like this, does nearly 100 shots at 15fpe.
Uses a marauder pistol trigger group, and some other custom bits.
Current one is 270mm, so 50mm longer than mine.
Uses a marauder pistol trigger group, and some other custom bits.
Current one is 270mm, so 50mm longer than mine.
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Highest quality PCP conversion KIT for Crosman 13xx all modifications.177 - 275m/s;. 22 - 250m/s. 1 - PCP air tube 270mm. Made from Materials PCP tube OD 38mm - Aircraft grade aluminum D16T;. Note: In order to properly install the PCP Kit you will need a minimum set of tools e.g. screwdrivers...
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Hopefully they have stepped their game up! In the past few years (2018-2021) I've had 5 barrels, 2 came new with 1322's, 3 more came new by themselves. Either for 1322 or 22xx, all awful.Hmm interesting since quite a few have mentioned that the new Crosman barrels are just as good as the LW barrels??? I'm not saying they are that's just what you read that some believe. I have a 2300S with a LW barrel and a 2289 with the Crosman barrel and from what I can tell I don't see a difference in accuracy, however I shoot mostly at 15-25 yards and have played with a 50 yard attempt plus I'm no world class shooter. I will be getting a scope and maybe I'll be able to tell the difference with optics on to hopefully give me observation on quality
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Thats the one I figured you had, I've been tempted. I've built a few 22xx pcp guns with the tube or safepacs. Fun, lightweight, and decent enough accuracy to take 100s of birds and squirrels in my time with them.The 1322 conversion I have is a krugergun conversion kit from russia. I was sold it from the country of georgia, and they are still available on ebay or on airgunbuy website, but are not quite the same. Mine came with a very nice shroud, and precisely machined baffle stack that works extremely well. The baffles thread together inside the shroud. Actually has an airstipper that centers on the barrel and uses the rear of the shroud for sound dampening, too. I requested a shorter 200mm airtube at the time, and the seller was able to get me a 220mm tube, which now has a custom huma regulator, and I took the original 290mm tube that came with the kit at the time as well (at my expense). The barrel is a crosman LW barrel 14.5" chopped to 7.6" and re-chocked specifically for AA 16gr pellets by WHITEFANG (RIP). Like this, does nearly 100 shots at 15fpe.
Uses a marauder pistol trigger group, and some other custom bits.
Current one is 270mm, so 50mm longer than mine.
PCP conversion KIT for Crosman 1377 / 1322 | eBay
Highest quality PCP conversion KIT for Crosman 13xx all modifications.177 - 275m/s;. 22 - 250m/s. 1 - PCP air tube 270mm. Made from Materials PCP tube OD 38mm - Aircraft grade aluminum D16T;. Note: In order to properly install the PCP Kit you will need a minimum set of tools e.g. screwdrivers...www.ebay.com
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