350 Magnum

crowski · Jun 27, 2023

I was was curious about the Diana 350 magnum .22 cal. I’m on the fence.
He’s my problem. My buddy (mentor) tells me it will fall apart in no time. Lucky to get 500 rounds through.
Now I’ve got a few Diana’s. Their power increase is notable and this is what my buddy says is the problem.
I got the 460 and found it to have great accuracy as well. My huge problem on the 460 is again plastic especially the front sight.
I’m Super satisfied with my Weihrauchs, Air Arms and FWB’s. Like the variety.
What’s you opionion on the 350 Magnum premium?
Crow

SteveV · Jun 27, 2023

It will have a plastic end cap/safety cover, but Diana's don't fall apart after 500 rounds.

EDIT: spellig

SpiralGroove · Jun 27, 2023

I've always wanted a Diana 350 Magnum in .22 as well. However, since I don't hunt ... the additional power is unnecessary.
I also don't like the plastic or the super long stroke which makes them a challenge to shoot consistently.

- But I've never worried about their longevity - they're made well and IMO THAT shouldn't be an issue

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JDR · Jun 27, 2023

I have a RWS 350 in 177 cal and a Xisco B28 in 22 cal (A exact Chinese Clone of the RWS 350 and a little more powerful I am told after the tune Mike Melcik gave it). RWS 350s are well made guns and in my opinion will last as long as HW, Air Arms or FWB which could be a lifetime if you are a low to moderate shooter. The thing you need to think about is the weight, length, cocking force and the learning curve to shoot accurate which are all high. I am just getting there and was hitting 1.5" at 80 yards most of the time with the RWS 350. The Xisco has similar accuracy but gave to my brother as focusing on 177 cal for my springers. RWS 350 is my squirrel gun. I guess the longer shot cycle makes it harder to master the artillery hold and have consistent accuracy so I am told takes longer than other springers to shoot good. However it is high quality,looks great and highly accurate once you get hang of it. Allows me to stretch the range I hunt small game. I will never part with it. Will probably need a drooper mount. I guess in some respects, it is in a class of its own. I don't think anything is sold that looks or operates like it.

rwsmike · Jun 27, 2023

They will not fall apart but they are not the easiest to shoot. Way better off with a hw97 or aa tx 200....I'm like a broken record. I have completely lost interest in break barrels and just favor under lever cocking. How about a rws 54....really nice gun

crowski · Jun 27, 2023

SteveV said:
It will have a plastic end cap/safety cover, but Diane's don't fall apart after 500 rounds.

Thanks, in all honesty it was a lot less than 500. Plastic gives me the shivers. Crow

SpiralGroove said:
I've always wanted a Diana 350 Magnum in .22 as well. However, since I don't hunt ... the additional power is unnecessary.
I also don't like the plastic or the super long stroke which makes them a challenge to shoot consistently.

- But I've never worried about their longevity - they're made well and IMO THAT shouldn't be an issue .

I don’t hunt either, just range.
Do they have the same stroke as the 34 or the 460? Crow

JDR said:
I have a RWS 350 in 177 cal and a Xisco B28 in 22 cal (A exact Chinese Clone of the RWS 350 and a little more powerful I am told after the tune Mike Melcik gave it). RWS 350s are well made guns and in my opinion will last as long as HW, Air Arms or FWB which could be a lifetime if you are a low to moderate shooter. The thing you need to think about is the weight, length, cocking force and the learning curve to shoot accurate which are all high. I am just getting there and was hitting 1.5" at 80 yards most of the time with the RWS 350. The Xisco has similar accuracy but gave to my brother as focusing on 177 cal for my springers. RWS 350 is my squirrel gun. I guess the longer shot cycle makes it harder to master the artillery hold and have consistent accuracy so I am told takes longer than other springers to shoot good. However it is high quality,looks great and highly accurate once you get hang of it. Allows me to stretch the range I hunt small game. I will never part with it. Will probably need a drooper mount. I guess in some respects, it is in a class of its own. I don't think anything is sold that looks or operates like it.

Thanks for your opinion. Completely opposite of my other resource. He’s very bias. This is what I want to hear. Crow

rwsmike said:
They will not fall apart but they are not the easiest to shoot. Way better off with a hw97 or aa tx 200....I'm like a broken record. I have completely lost interest in break barrels and just favor under lever cocking. How about a rws 54....really nice gun

Thanks. I didn’t think it would. Know very little about them. I like a challenge.
Have 3-77’s, 6-97’s, 4 TX’s and a 54 Pro. Really like the 77’s.
Most my guns are in the same power level. The Diana’s are all higher FPS. Except I bought a 34 premium, used. It must of been tuned down, deadly accurate, .177 cal. Crow

SpiralGroove · Jun 27, 2023

Crow,
IDK ... never owned either, but the 350 shoots .22 caliber pellets 100 fps faster ... so likely longer stroke.
With the way Weihrauch and AA guns are increasing in price these days .... the 350 Mag is becoming more enticing at $400

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Bill_D · Jun 27, 2023

I purchased a 177 350 mag in 2002 - I have no idea how many rounds have gone down the bore - many many 1000s.
The only thing I have ever replaced is the breech seal. Still have it and still shoot it.
It is somewhat a challenge to learn to shoot - has a lot of "jump". If you master the 350 -you can shoot anything.
Be aware - if you use an optic it better be springer rated - if not it won't last 20 shots.

marflow 777 · Jun 27, 2023

https://www.pyramydair.com/product/diana-rws-350-magnum?m=396#Reviews
just some reading and will it fall apart, what nonsense, how the hell would it fall apart

cjtamu · Jun 27, 2023

Crow, that Diana 34 should be in 13-14 FPE range. If thats where it is then it hasn’t been tuned down. Mine is box stock and extremely accurate. I know you’ve been playing with peep sights. That’s what I use on mine, great gun for that. And yes, a Diana 350 will fall apart. Same as any other springer if you don’t tighten the screws on occasion ha ha ha.

drpietrzak · Jun 27, 2023

Are the 54 and 460 similar in power?

SpiralGroove · Jun 27, 2023

Please go to the PA website and look this information up ...... as this is all known information

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Diana 460 Magnum | Spring Piston Air Rifle | Pyramyd AIR

The Diana 460 Magnum is the legendary German manufacturer's most powerful spring piston model. Power and superb accuracy thanks to the fixed barrel.

www.pyramydair.com

Diana 54 Airking Pro | Laminate Spring Air Rifle | Pyramyd AIR

We've got a great price on the Diana 54 Airking Pro Air Rifle, Laminate. Get a great price and expert advice at Pyramyd for your next outdoor adventure!

www.pyramydair.com

drpietrzak · Jun 27, 2023

SpiralGroove said:
Please go to the PA website and look this information up ...... as this is all known information .

Diana 460 Magnum | Spring Piston Air Rifle | Pyramyd AIR

The Diana 460 Magnum is the legendary German manufacturer's most powerful spring piston model. Power and superb accuracy thanks to the fixed barrel.

www.pyramydair.com

Diana 54 Airking Pro | Laminate Spring Air Rifle | Pyramyd AIR

We've got a great price on the Diana 54 Airking Pro Air Rifle, Laminate. Get a great price and expert advice at Pyramyd for your next outdoor adventure!

www.pyramydair.com

Except that I can't tell what weight pellet and type of pellet is used for each so it is not real clear.

crowski · Jun 27, 2023

SpiralGroove said:
Crow,
IDK ... never owned either, but the 350 shoots .22 caliber pellets 100 fps faster ... so likely longer stroke.
With the way Weihrauch and AA guns are increasing in price these days .... the 350 Mag is becoming more enticing at $400 .

Thanks. $400. I wish $750. here plus $97. Tax. Crow

Bill_D said:
I purchased a 177 350 mag in 2002 - I have no idea how many rounds have gone down the bore - many many 1000s.
The only thing I have ever replaced is the breech seal. Still have it and still shoot it.
It is somewhat a challenge to learn to shoot - has a lot of "jump". If you master the 350 -you can shoot anything.
Be aware - if you use an optic it better be springer rated - if not it won't last 20 shots.

Thanks Bill. I appreciate your advice. I’m after a challenge. Optics, no problem. Crow

marflow 777 said:
https://www.pyramydair.com/product/diana-rws-350-magnum?m=396#Reviews
just some reading and will it fall apart, what nonsense, how the hell would it fall apart

I only talk to 1 friend, who got me started 4 years ago. He doesn’t believe in .177 cal. either, it’s for wimps. For 2 years I listened to only him because of Covid isolation. When I became a member here I had nothing but .22, .25 and .30 cal. springers. I now have a few .177 and .20.
I’ve known my buddy for 60 yrs. He has tunnel vision. I tell him that. I doubted him that’s why I’m asking.
Thanks for the testimonies, I would never of thought that. Wish I was better at the computers.
I really appreciate the knowledge I’ve gained from this forum. Crow

cjtamu said:
Crow, that Diana 34 should be in 13-14 FPE range. If thats where it is then it hasn’t been tuned down. Mine is box stock and extremely accurate. I know you’ve been playing with peep sights. That’s what I use on mine, great gun for that. And yes, a Diana 350 will fall apart. Same as any other springer if you don’t tighten the screws on occasion ha ha ha.

It’s shooting 875 fps. about 150 fps slower than the 34 I sold which was untouched.
No comeback on that one. Thanks Crow

crowski · Jun 27, 2023

drpietrzak said:
Are the 54 and 460 similar in power?

I don’t shoot the 54 much. So smooth, powerful and dirty accurate. I haven’t really looked at it. It just feels like it’s going to fall apart. Aurora it’s at my door. I’ll be shooting in about a half an hour. I get a chance I’ll grab the 460 because I’ve never crony that yet, but I’ll let you know when I do. They’re both hard hitters. Much harder than what I’m used to.

SpiralGroove said:
Please go to the PA website and look this information up ...... as this is all known information .

Diana 460 Magnum | Spring Piston Air Rifle | Pyramyd AIR

The Diana 460 Magnum is the legendary German manufacturer's most powerful spring piston model. Power and superb accuracy thanks to the fixed barrel.

www.pyramydair.com

Diana 54 Airking Pro | Laminate Spring Air Rifle | Pyramyd AIR

We've got a great price on the Diana 54 Airking Pro Air Rifle, Laminate. Get a great price and expert advice at Pyramyd for your next outdoor adventure!

www.pyramydair.com

Thanks I’ll check it out. Crow

Ramjet · Jun 27, 2023

crowski said:
Thanks, in all honesty it was a lot less than 500. Plastic gives me the shivers. Crow

In all honesty the glass nylon poly on the Diana's trigger guards are ironically better then the pot metal they put on the Weihrauch's. The AA's milled aluminum is the better of either of the former though.

Mycapt65 · Jun 27, 2023

Ramjet said:
In all honesty the glass nylon poly on the Diana's trigger guards are ironically better then the pot metal they put on the Weihrauch's. The AA's milled aluminum is the better of either of the former though.

Really??? The cast aluminum trigger on a Weihrauch is not "pot metal". The only time I've seen one break was when someone shipped me a poorly packed rifle without the trigger guard in place. It was broken by UPS when it stuck through the box and probably tossed on a truck.

I'll take Weihrauch "pot metal" over Diana plastic every day. I've only shot two D350s. One in 177 and one in 22. Both shot like a bucket of bolts and neither hit near the POA. In all fairness both guns belonged to general consumers and probably had wasted scopes on them. They might shoot fine with a tune and an Airmax scope. Still more plastic and violent than I relish.

Look we all have our favorites but let's keep our information accurate and fair.

JDR · Jun 27, 2023

I bought my RWS 350 177 cal for $199 when AOA put them on sale. Because they require a lot more practice to shoot accurately than more mild springers, I am told you can find them used. The ones I have seen on the classifieds have been priced to high. Wondering if you could score at a pawn shop, gun show, ebay or Gun Broker. Mabybe a good chance at any big airgun shows and competitions. Also look out for a used Xisco B28 (exact copy) especially if Flying Dragons sold it and if tuned would be even better. When I get a chance, I am going to compare my HW 35, FWB 124D and RWS 350 from 15 to 100 yards. I think the RWS 350 will hold its own at the longer distances but who knows. I am not that great of shooter. Expect to be eliminated in first round in the Pyramid Cup GunSlinger competion in August by a 10 year old girl with a Crossman 760.

cjtamu · Jun 27, 2023

drpietrzak said:
Are the 54 and 460 similar in power?

My .177 56T/H makes a hair under 19 FPE with H&N FTT, but spits them out nearly 1,000 FPS. Best pellet so far is JSB Exact 10.34. Just under 18 FPE at about 880 FPS and hella accurate. The 460 supposedly makes a little more, but how much power do you need? It won’t touch the accuracy potential of the 54/56 platform. And with the available HPM you can tweak accuracy even more. I’d take the 54/56 all day long for bench shooting.

drpietrzak · Jun 27, 2023

cjtamu said:
My .177 56T/H makes a hair under 19 FPE with H&N FTT, but spits them out nearly 1,000 FPS. Best pellet so far is JSB Exact 10.34. Just under 18 FPE at about 880 FPS and hella accurate. The 460 supposedly makes a little more, but how much power do you need? It won’t touch the accuracy potential of the 54/56 platform. And with the available HPM you can tweak accuracy even more. I’d take the 54/56 all day long for bench shooting.

This is what I have understood as well.

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