Crosman parts made in China?

Just left the Benjamin website. Not once anywhere on there did I see them bragging about "made in America" which isn't exactly a good sign for where parts come from. Aside from that I really have no proof of where they are made.

I know a couple of years ago that @CrosmanEngineer who was a Crosman employee posted that the Marauder was still manufactured predominantly with USA made parts. Not sure if that is still the case, hope it is!

So...is that a problem for you ?
MOST of everything that we us in the US, has ties to being made offshore (China !) !

Where's that tooth brush that you...stick in your mouth every day made ?

Mike

baranjhn said:

I’ve seen it mentioned a few times lately where others have claimed Crosman parts are made in China (specific to the Marauder). I’m curious if this is true or not and if it is, where is the proof? I’ve done some internet searches and came up with no official confirmation.

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They have been and pretty sure they still are,.....Benjamin tried to pull a fast one with the Marauder many years ago by slapping the "Made in America" label on, but they had to scratch that since it was a lie.

Well if the barrels are made “In-house,” they may as well be made in China.

Being in the parts business, sourcing in the US is extremely expensive.
If the parts on a Marauder were made in the states, that Mrod would $1,500 or more.

That is the catch. Unions in theory fight to get workers good pay, but it is at the expense of affordable whole goods.

I try to buy from USA where I can but also buy foreign goods if no comparable USA products or just so overpriced over the China alternative. I think most people here are this way that can afford to pay their bills. Tools are a good example for me but getting more difficult to find USA made ones. Switching more to used old vintage USA tools off Facebook. For sprinter airguns, I prefer German over anything else although I will make and an exception for Mike Melick Xisco tuned airguns. The B28 I bought from him was a quality airgun. However, it seems he has no guns to sell anymore.

Just because the box says made in usa dont mean the thing in it was ..

All a company had to do to put made in usa is handle 10% of the item.

As in unload a shipping container from china of binned stuff , sort them , and package them. .and that all needed to claim made in usa. Pretty much stuffing a china made thing in a box with made in usa on it and sell it to you at union made pricing wile kicking a brother out to the curb..

Hateful McNasty said:

Just because the box says made in usa dont mean the thing in it was ..

All a company had to do to put made in usa is handle 10% of the item.

As in unload a shipping container from china of binned stuff , sort them , and package them. .and that all needed to claim made in usa. Pretty much stuffing a china made thing in a box with made in usa on it and sell it to you at union made pricing wile kicking a brother out to the curb..

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When a CEO is making $20 mil a year and the average employee can barely afford a 2 bedroom house it sure as hell ain't the union that's the problem. That CEO would happily pay his guys less and charge us more if given the opportunity.

Perhaps I can shed some light on this topic based on some stuff we went through at work a while back…

In 2021, the FTC (Federal Trade Commission) codified its “Made in USA” guidance into formal rules, which was a step done to make enforcement easier. By enforcement, what that really means is assess $$$$ penalties to companies misrepresenting products as American-made. Professional and legal guidance emerging from these changes seemed to settle in on recommending that only products having at least 98% of their total value being of US origin should make the claim. Predictably, the number of products with “Made in USA” or “Built in USA” or similar language shrank considerably in recent years.

From what i've seen they say, built in america, made in the usa using globally sourced materials. One only has to look on the classifieds to see that wording. Take it for what it's worth.

Also may not be China. I know Brazil is makin very good parts. Alum castings and such.
At the end of the day the barrel is what matters to me.

I have been through the factory and a lot of parts are made in house but some are outsourced like just about everything else. I saw hundreds of American workers making pellets, bbs, co2 carts, assembling guns, shooting guns, making stocks, and other things. It did my heart good to see it. They make pretty good guns and the barrels seem to be better than they used to be. I shot a match with the guy who revamped the barrrel making process. Crosman brought him in from NASA. He is a real nice guy and had a beautiful young son that shot with us. I miss those FT shoots that Crosman put on before Covid. It was a first class shoot. We had a contingent of 8 or more people that traveled to NY every year to make the event. Good times for sure.

baranjhn said:

I contacted Benjamin customer service and asked them if parts for the Marauder were made in the USA or if they were sourced from other countries.

I received a reply back.
"The gun ins made in the USA, some parts could come from other countries."

So there is the part of the answer.

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Bollocks,...they can really say whatever they want, who is there to really check ?

baranjhn said:

I’ve seen it mentioned a few times lately where others have claimed Crosman parts are made in China (specific to the Marauder). I’m curious if this is true or not and if it is, where is the proof? I’ve done some internet searches and came up with no official confirmation.

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In 1971, the company moved to a large new, purpose-built location in the village of East Bloomfield, NY. This has been the company’s headquarters and the home of the Crosman airgun factory ever since.


Archer Airguns stocks a wide variety of parts for Crosman airguns. Most are sourced direct from the factory, however some are designed and manufactured by Archer Airguns. Many are combined into kits that make it easy to undertake particular tasks - such as a reseal - without you needing to find all the individual Part Numbers.

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And I have absolutely nothing against China, on the contrary I think China has done the most for PCP shooters then any other country with the affordable and still good quality pumps, compressors, chronographs and so on.

I have a Chinese electric dirt bike that I love and I'm about to buy an other one, my Chinese wonder pistol is days away from arriving, so yes I have nothing againt China but it bothers me when companies lie, of circumvent the truth to put it more mildly.

If the Marauder was made in the USA would not cost 400 bucks, that tells you everything.

They didn’t lie, is was a hard yes, some parts are made in other countries.
I can’t get past the in house barrel. I get poor one every time.
Hiring in a NASA reject to help them with barrels? Oh please.

What's size is it