Western Airguns Western Airguns are made where? USA? Where.

This ones been beaten with a dead horse.

hod,I gotta company is property of AOA. no idea where they’re built, but AOA owns western Airguns.

how do you know AOA owns western Airguns?
i only ask because if AOA why would they not know where they are made?
so This ones been beaten with a dead horse but i have no clue, although i am new to PCPs i am intersted in USA made guns.

Is "AOA" Airguns of Arizona?

madeintheuk said:

This ones been beaten with a dead horse.

hod,I gotta company is property of AOA. no idea where they’re built, but AOA owns western Airguns.

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I just pictured a guy swinging a dead horse to beat something Usually the dead horse is being beaten.

Beating someone with a dead horse will get you nowhere.

Western Airguns, LLC is incorporated and registered in Sheirdan, WY.
All the info is out there if you look.
I'm not going to name the 2 officers listed, but one is a rather big attorney based where...... Mesa, Arizona.
Just so happens there is a certain Airgun shop you guys mentioned in Mesa as well.

Per the logo...

It's "AoA"...NOT "AOA" !
Airguns of America...right ? So simple.

Mike

So apparently your not gonna get a straight answer for some reason... Perhaps fear of being beat with that dead horse..

chas1969 said:

I think they are really made in China not USA!

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Chas you may very well be right.

Here’s a little family tree explanation about Western Airguns:

The Rattler and Sidewinder were created by the (one of the) designer(s) of the LCS sk-19. As you can see the Rattler is nothing more than a souped up, roided up sk-19.

The sk-19 was created by stealing the design of the Huben K-1 hammerless system. If you strip away all the tacticool components it is a copy of the huben. Same valve system that allows efficient, high power on the fly.

AOA ties into all of this because they originally sold the Huben k1. Then the sk-19 comes along and AOA started selling it too. Allegedly, huben told AOA if they continue selling the sk-19 they would cut ties with them. Soon after, AOA dropped huben and continued selling the sk-19. Then, one of the designers of the sk-19 had a falling out and started another company, Western Airguns.

Huben doesn’t hide the fact that it’s made in China. LCS was vague about the sk-19 being made with imported (Chinese?) parts. On the rifle it said “made with domestic and imported parts”. The Western airgun models are likely made with domestic and imported parts as well. My guess is there are far more imported parts than domestic.

Note: LCS appears to be in litigation pertaining to patent infringement. I would not be surprised if Western Airguns will be subjected to the same litigation if they aren’t already.

chas1969 said:

I think they are really made in China not USA!

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make them prove otherwise ! and maybe they will

chas1969 said:

Prove false advertising. With opaque pretend holding companies without any reference to realness.
They have proved that USA-washing Chinese manufacturing is okay. Not

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harley davidson does that but doesnt hide it , " they just need to make an admission one way or another .

it seems if you look an their website only the Bushbuck 45 and Bushbuck 45 Carbine say made in the USA
i think that would imply the other where not?
look missleading to me before this thread i asumed they where all USA made

Legionair said:

Chas you may very well be right.

Here’s a little family tree explanation about Western Airguns:

The Rattler and Sidewinder were created by the (one of the) designer(s) of the LCS sk-19. As you can see the Rattler is nothing more than a souped up, roided up sk-19.

The sk-19 was created by stealing the design of the Huben K-1 hammerless system. If you strip away all the tacticool components it is a copy of the huben. Same valve system that allows efficient, high power on the fly.

AOA ties into all of this because they originally sold the Huben k1. Then the sk-19 comes along and AOA started selling it too. Allegedly, huben told AOA if they continue selling the sk-19 they would cut ties with them. Soon after, AOA dropped huben and continued selling the sk-19. Then, one of the designers of the sk-19 had a falling out and started another company, Western Airguns.

Huben doesn’t hide the fact that it’s made in China. LCS was vague about the sk-19 being made with imported (Chinese?) parts. On the rifle it said “made with domestic and imported parts”. The Western airgun models are likely made with domestic and imported parts as well. My guess is there are far more imported parts than domestic.

Note: LCS appears to be in litigation pertaining to patent infringement. I would not be surprised if Western Airguns will be subjected to the same litigation if they aren’t already.

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Thanks for answering the OP's question... For the life of me I don't know why some would reply like it's supposed to be "top secret".. or "do a search" type answer. Good on you for helping a legit question a fellow air gunner asked..

I used to be a firm believer on only buying made in the USA air rifles and thought that anything made in China was junk(bad experience with a AEA)and not worth my time, my AGN account almost got suspended for some of my comments of made in china manufactured rifles..that is until I got my Huben, boy was I wrong the huben is made well, reliable, powerful and laser accurate… no comparison to other made in China rifles. Point is China can produce quality items and if some of the parts are sourced in another country, has excellent build quality, shoots well etc.. then so what.. I’m not cool with manufacturers claiming and stamping made in the USA when it has sourced parts though..

It might be that a certain minimum percentage has to be met for manufacturing or assemblage before it can be claimed to be made in the USA. One way another, it would be nice to ween ourselves off of China as much as possible.

HubenK1Sniper92 said:

I used to be a firm believer on only buying made in the USA air rifles and thought that anything made in China was junk(bad experience with a AEA)and not worth my time, my AGN account almost got suspended for some of my comments of made in china manufactured rifles..that is until I got my Huben, boy was I wrong the huben is made well, reliable, powerful and laser accurate… no comparison to other made in China rifles. Point is China can produce quality items and if some of the parts are sourced in another country, has excellent build quality, shoots well etc.. then so what.. I’m not cool with manufacturers claiming and stamping made in the USA when it has sourced parts though..

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i think the words "assembled in the USA fits a little better , RAW !!! now that gun is made here!