Don't leave us hanging, what is the scope you use?Sure there are.
The scope I use ranges very well at 45 yards and is effective at 50+ yards on a regular basis. Unfortunately the scope is no longer available.
My guess is a Weaver V16. Or a Bushnell 4200.Don't leave us hanging, what is the scope you use?
Sorry, I misread the user name and thought Ron was the user of the mystery scope. It's early and I'm dumb. Later, I'll still be dumb.My guess is a Weaver V16. Or a Bushnell 4200.
So, did you clean the course? Quite a feat in the rain. I bought an Argos but sent it back due to critical eye relief. DonI used an Athlon argos g2 and Hawke sidewinder today and they both ranged well. Yes the sightron snaps in and was by far better. However I had no problems with ranging today even though we had rain for the duration of our matchThatsI tried the Athlon Argos
The misses were my own doing not a ranging issue. For people getting into the hobby or on a limited budget the argos G2 and sidewinder are more than adequate and range just fine. The course was a long one and I didnt have any errors ranging them. It disproves your statement as others have also. Yes a sightron is even better, but to make such a bold statement of "There are no 16x scopes that range well from 40-55." Is inaccurate.So, did you clean the course? Quite a feat in the rain. I bought an Argos but sent it back due to critical eye relief. Don
Just a question, how do you know your misses were not bad ranging? Did you double check the yardages with a range finder? I was just stating what I and many others have found after buying countless scopes to find there is no holy grail scope at 16x. If you have found one , that is outstanding! l would expect to see you on the podium at the next national championship. DonThe misses were my own doing not a ranging issue. For people getting into the hobby or on a limited budget the argos G2 and sidewinder are more than adequate and range just fine. The course was a long one and I didnt have any errors ranging them. It disproves your statement as others have also. Yes a sightron is even better, but to make such a bold statement of "There are no 16x scopes that range well from 40-55." Is inaccurate.
why the need to be snotty with your replies? its really not needed.I was just stating what I and many others have found after buying countless scopes to find there is no holy grail scope at 16x. If you have found one , that is outstanding! l would expect to see you on the podium at the next national championship. Don
Not being snotty. Why are you being a ******* by saying I am giving false information? I was just giving my opinion and the opinions of a bunch of field target shooters.Most have searched for the the holy grail 16x scope since they were able to get the BOG to change from 12x. Why are a lot of field target shooters trying to get the BOG to go to 24x. Is it perhaps because ranging at 16x is mostly a crap shoot past 40 yards? My response was JMHO and you are intitled to yours, but really don't like to be called a liar so I will defend myself when challenged. Donwhy the need to be snotty with your replies? its really not needed.
I suggest you learn to read as nobody called you a liar. It was stated that your bold statement of "There are no 16x scopes that range well from 40-55" was inaccurate. Thats HARDLY calling you a liar. Others have also stated it was inaccurate based on their experience. Yet you feel the need to interject your rude, snide, condescending comments into the discussion that arent needed and certainly dont add to it.Not being snotty. Why are you being a d!#k by saying I am giving false information? I was just giving my opinion and the opinions of a bunch of field target shooters.Most have searched for the the holy grail 16x scope since they were able to get the BOG to change from 12x. Why are a lot of field target shooters trying to get the BOG to go to 24x. Is it perhaps because ranging at 16x is mostly a crap shoot past 40 yards? My response was JMHO and you are intitled to yours, but really don't like to be called a liar so I will defend myself when challenged. Don
The misses were my own doing not a ranging issue. For people getting into the hobby or on a limited budget the argos G2 and sidewinder are more than adequate and range just fine. The course was a long one and I didnt have any errors ranging them. It disproves your statement as others have also. Yes a sightron is even better, but to make such a bold statement of "There are no 16x scopes that range well from 40-55." Is inaccurate.
Okay ,now l can't read! You said my statement was "inaccurate". Is that like wrong as you lied? Dude shoot what you want and suggest any scope you want but leave me out of your comments. The last time l looked, this country still has free speech. Who said my comments aren't needed. ***Moderated content: personal attack removed ****I suggest you learn to read as nobody called you a liar. It was stated that your bold statement of "There are no 16x scopes that range well from 40-55" was inaccurate. Thats HARDLY calling you a liar. Others have also stated it was inaccurate based on their experience. Yet you feel the need to interject your rude, snide, condescending comments into the discussion that arent needed and certainly dont add to it.
I gave you an example of 2 scopes I used in the match yesterday that certainly ranged well enough to allow for good scores. Its easy to know when a miss is due to a ranging error or something else. We had poor conditions for our match yesterday, worse conditions than the nationals held in ohio a couple weeks ago. The winner of the match shot a 52/60 with a hawke sidewinder on his redwolf. You cant do that if you arent ranging well.
Is it easier to range at higher magnification? Of course. But you can still range well at 16x. Some scopes do it better or easier than others. One reason the sightron is so liked.
This is exactly what l was trying to say but dan_house said it much better.check the scope used on posted equipment lists from the bigger matches. Its not just the ranging... do you like the reticle? can you work the dials and knobs within the time allotted? are they repeatable? eye relief? Even if it ranges well but your uncomfortable with it, it wont help the shot
Also, learn to range find with the reticle. Itll help at all distances.....