FX What would be a good first pcp rifle

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I don't usually think of this but a thread about a frustrated new owner reminds me that airguns do not always come with a reasonable manual. But for a new owner a manual that explains how to get air into the gun, load the magazine, adjust the trigger can be a big deal. My Marauder pistol came with a decent manual as did my Avenger. My SPA P35s came with a laughable excuse of a so called manual. But I had some experience from the first two so it was not a big deal. But if it had been my first airgun I would have been in trouble. The "disappinted" thread concerns a Hatsan and I looked at it's manual. I don't think it contained any information about getting air into the gun.

I hand pumped at first and it worked fine for my Prod (Marauder pistol) because it only takes about 30 pumps to recharge it. It was totally no fun on my Avenger. Hundreds of strokes and really hard to get to 300 bar. 250 bar still gave quite a few shots, however, and I did it for awhile but bought a Yong Heng pretty quickly. A Umarex Notos seems like another gun that would be fun and not too difficult to hand pump. But unless you are very patient, I don't think you will want to hand pump any gun that stores over 100 cc of air.

If you do not want a gun like a Notos then I suggest spending less on a gun and just start out with a pump. Like a GX CS2. I like my Yong Heng and it is reasonable in price but it takes more effort to set up and is not very portable. I use it to fill a used fireman's tank which is portable. Tanks are a really nice way to fill a gun because they are quiet and quick. Small portable pumps like a GX CS2 are not very fast and not real quiet. Yong Hengs are fast but noisy.

I think there is a high likelihood you'd be much more happy with an Avenge X and a GX CS2 than you would be with a Dreamline and a hand pump. Cost would be similar. Doesn't have to be an Avenge X, of course, but it is enough cheaper to support a pump purchase and it has a reasonable manual. It also switches calibers and gun types like the dreamline.
 
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If you are serious about using a hand pump... you don't want a regulated gun that needs a 3,000+psi fill pressure... some need 4,500.. you will not like trying to fill that with a hand pump.

You need to decide what your "all in budget" is.. and what you really want to use the gun for and at what distance you plan on shooting accurately.

Then we can give you some more accurate advice... in my opinion.

Scope? do you have one to go on the new rifle or is that something you need in your budget? How good does it need to be.. just for pest control? figure about $180 to $300 with mounts and a bubble level.

We have used some of the lower priced compressors from China, and they are good if you are careful to keep them cool. Get one with water cooling and add ice to the tub of water that it uses. They run from $210 to $500, we just got a two cylinder that pumps real fast and has a great cooling system when set up with the ice water tub. it was $380 on Amazon. This is the lower priced one:


This is the one we use

Otherwise you need a gun that only needs a 2,000psi fill.
like this one:
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Beeman Power .22 Cal Series Model 1328

This is a very nice light weight and accurate entry level air rifle. It shoots 18 to 20 foot pounds of energy.
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It's not a slug gun, but it shoots 20fpe easy in 22 cal, which is great out to 60 yards or so.

so add up all the things you will need with your new PCP and then let's talk again
 
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All my FX’s came from PA or UA and shot very very well with no adjustments. As did my Daystate Wolverine and Huntsman .22. I do agree that the FX would most likely need tuning if you step away from the pellet they tuned it to.
If you think you’re really going to get into tinkering and tuning, FX is a good route, but there are others as well.
 
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allinssd said:
They don't let friends buy DonnyFl either.

Well... unless you're being honest with yourself and just like the aesthetics, but stop lying to your friends saying they're the best you can get
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Yep all I heard was how great they were. I got one to toss some business to a brick and mortar store I had visited. Thats the last one that I'll get. Especially with other things I have heard since.
 
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MysticalDragon said:
Yep all I heard was how great they were. I got one to toss some business to a brick and mortar store I had visited. Thats the last one that I'll get. Especially with other things I have heard since.
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Well then what’s the skinny on the good stuff? Who’s the big Johnson in the business now Making better suppressors?
 
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BigVitamin said:
Well then what’s the skinny on the good stuff? Who’s the big Johnson in the business now Making better suppressors?
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There was a thread a week or so ago that sounded pretty promising, IMO.
Bullyscyclone. See link.

Bullysyclone Wylie Kanz moderators... throw everything else in the trash.

I had the pleasure to test out one of these "Wylie Kanz" moderators designed, machined, and built by one of our very own.. @Bullysyclone The moderators are named after his Basenji (or barkless dog as they're called (how fitting right?) .... Wylie When I first got the moderator , I wanted to...
www.airgunnation.com www.airgunnation.com
 
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Whiteknight71 said:
I’m in the market for a pcp rifle. Trying to find out what would be a good start with a pcp. I like the looks of the fx Dreamline series. let me know what you all think?
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If you have in your budget ( Dreamline ), there are other options. But you didn't say what you want it for. Target shooting? Casual plinking? Pesting? Multi-shot/single shot?

I read through the entire string and saw you want it for pesting and casual shooting. And you want to hand pump it, right? I assume .22? The Taipan Vets are great, but if you want to hand pump it up to 250 BAR, you'll will get sick of it and want a compressor. A better option someone mentioned would be a Daystate Regal
 
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Whiteknight71 said:
I’m in the market for a pcp rifle. Trying to find out what would be a good start with a pcp. I like the looks of the fx Dreamline series. let me know what you all think?
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If you have access to any air gun shooters close to home, I suggest talking with them about this decision. There are many good air rifles out there, but if you get one with which someone local has experience, it could greatly shorten your learning curve, and maybe avoid some frustration. And yes, the Daystate Huntsman line is an excellent, generally trouble-free platform. The Air Arms 400/500 series are also in that category.
 
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allinssd said:
They don't let friends buy DonnyFl either.

Well... unless you're being honest with yourself and just like the aesthetics, but stop lying to your friends saying they're the best you can get
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I'm going to label this misinformation, I've tested a bunch different mods and spend a lot of money in the process, the Donny's ALWAYS beat the others. A few actually made the gun WAY louder. You don't need big to be effective, just long. The closer you can get to your projectile diameter the better off you are for sound, also NOT pumping extra are out the muzzle is important to reduce sound and projectile stability.
 
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Airgunoregon said:
If you are serious about using a hand pump... you don't want a regulated gun that needs a 3,000+psi fill pressure... some need 4,500.. you will not like trying to fill that with a hand pump.

You need to decide what your "all in budget" is.. and what you really want to use the gun for and at what distance you plan on shooting accurately.

Then we can give you some more accurate advice... in my opinion.

Scope? do you have one to go on the new rifle or is that something you need in your budget? How good does it need to be.. just for pest control? figure about $180 to $300 with mounts and a bubble level.

We have used some of the lower priced compressors from China, and they are good if you are careful to keep them cool. Get one with water cooling and add ice to the tub of water that it uses. They run from $210 to $500, we just got a two cylinder that pumps real fast and has a great cooling system when set up with the ice water tub. it was $380 on Amazon. This is the lower priced one:


This is the one we use

Otherwise you need a gun that only needs a 2,000psi fill.
like this one:
airgunoregon.shop

Beeman Power .22 Cal Series Model 1328

This is a very nice light weight and accurate entry level air rifle. It shoots 18 to 20 foot pounds of energy.
airgunoregon.shop
It's not a slug gun, but it shoots 20fpe easy in 22 cal, which is great out to 60 yards or so.

so add up all the things you will need with your new PCP and then let's talk again
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Bollocks.


this post is so full of misinformation I don't even know where to start to reply :ROFLMAO:
 
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