Skout Sniper Slug - Official Release

Centercut said:

Thats a very good BC, but still about 17% less than the Altaros ATP Smooth 49.5 grain slugs... I'm very interested to see how well they do in the wind next month.

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Data shot from my gun doesn't actually show a 17% difference in BC. Just for a reference here.
Due to crappy weather looks like there will be an in the wind test tomorrow out to 500+ yards.





Even at 100,200,and 300 yards the chronys theoretical data below shows decent velocity and Ft Lbs for a well designed HP to still work effectively.

.22 cents per slug, no thanks.

Long_Shot said:

Data shot from my gun doesn't actually show a 17% difference in BC. Just for a reference here.
Due to crappy weather looks like there will be an in the wind test tomorrow out to 500+ yards.

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Even at 100,200,and 300 yards the chronys theoretical data below shows decent velocity and Ft Lbs for a well designed HP to still work effectively.

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Interesting. Which barrel are you shooting them out of? In my Panthera 600mm Superior Heavy at 890 fps, I get 0.21 G1 sometimes even higher.
But, I use the G7 profile as recommended by Ondrej at Altaros and that is 0.110. Not sure why yours is that low? Cut barrel maybe?

Also with the FX Outdoors True Chrono, I recommend using 20, 45, 70, and 95 yards as your settings. From what I understand the radar won’t pick up past 100 yards anyway, so using 100, 150, 200 and 300 all but one is an extrapolated number. I’ve found my BC much more accurate using yardages that the radar can actually sense the slug speed.

Ta-Ta Toothie said:

.22 cents per slug, no thanks.

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Theres a lot of investment and development in these slugs and probably depends on rate production. Plus made in the USA baby.

DanT55 said:

Theres a lot of investment and development in these slugs and probably depends on rate production. Plus made in the USA baby.

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I understand that, but this cost more than many .22 PB ammo. Heck, slugs should be cheaper then pellets but there not cause we just accept that. Price it right and they will recover the cost by selling more quantities. I'm just not pulling the trigger on any of this for a quarter a shot. Hopefully the Zans will be promising...

Ta-Ta Toothie said:

I understand that, but this cost more than many .22 PB ammo. Heck, slugs should be cheaper then pellets but there not cause we just accept that. Price it right and they will recover the cost by selling more quantities. I'm just not pulling the trigger on any of this for a quarter a shot. Hopefully the Zans will be promising...

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22 ammo is made in the millions of rounds. No one said this sport was cheap but people pay for results/advancements and there is value in that if your into it. They probably don't even want to be in the slug business but decided it was the best way to compete at a higher level and provide a bespoke slug to barrel combo vs chasing all the different slug combos with barrels. I'm picking some up next week to try out. It's all about options at the end of the day.

Remember. These work with the new Skout .25 slug barrels and probably not do well with other barrels.

If someone can produce a great slug at an attractive price, they would sell like hotcakes.

Skout-airguns said:

That was the whole purpose of our slug. To provide Skout users a slug that eliminates the headaches and guesswork involved with shooting slugs. We never intended this slug to be a one size fits all slug or work with everything. But as all us air gunners do we like to experiment and try things. Don’t knock it until you try it, the results speak for themselves

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Yup, ya never know. What results? I’ll find out for realz in a month. We’ll see just how good they really are.

Skout-airguns said:

That was the whole purpose of our slug. To provide Skout users a slug that eliminates the headaches and guesswork involved with shooting slugs. We never intended this slug to be a one size fits all slug or work with everything. But as all us air gunners do we like to experiment and try things. Don’t knock it until you try it, the results speak for themselves

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I've been biting my tongue, I'm sorry if I'm stepping on anyone's toes. I will still wait and try these first to see if they happen to work with my liners but, is this slug design something Corbin can sell so that we can swage these ourselves to our own barrel size?

This is the same company that sells the pellet and slug swaging machines right?

Allen

Skout-airguns said:

Results in the video posted above in the thread, showing repeatable consistency sub MOA groups…

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Yes. I thought you were referring to non- Skout barrels. My bad. The one with Robert Steele shooting and results on a video monitor correct?

Centercut said:

Thanks Kevin. Have you tried those slugs in anything other than the new Skout slug barrel? If so which barrels have you tried them in? I agree, up to 200 yards, a difference of 0.3 in BC is negligible. I’m super anxious to see how they shoot in Oregon in a month at the Long Range Challenge 150 to 300 yards in the wind. I hope you’re there shooting them with the Skout Team.

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To be clear, .3 in BC is huge. I assume you meant .03, which is small but in my opinion not negligible.

scotton said:

To be clear, .3 in BC is huge. I assume you meant .03, which is small but in my opinion not negligible.

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Si. Gracias.

Skout-airguns said:

They're actually not the same price... Altaros slugs are $23.99 and Skout Sniper slugs are $22.50 if you buy one tin, and only $20 per tin if you buy a 10 pack. We also offer them by the case (40 tins) for $18 a tin. Right now we are packing in tins which is why you see some marring on the outside due to them touching each other. Rest assured this does not change the accuracy of them (check out the video posted above). We will Soon be changing the packaging though to avoid this marring as well.

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given that inaccurate information is given here, I want to express our opinion

First, I will start with the appearance, it is clear to everyone which slug typ (Altaros ATP Smooth 50gr) these Skout slugs or new ZAN slugs are based on.
For us, it just means confirmation of our dominance in the field of the best slug on the market, when the competition copies us and does not come up with anything new.
Thanks to this, we know that we are always several steps ahead (yes, I am already testing slugs with BC G1 0.425 or 0.2185 G7 in .25 caliber).

It is proven that CNC-turned projectiles have 10-20% better BC even with the same shape. This has been proven in firearms, it is simply due to better technology and that is why CNC-turned projectiles dominate at the longest distances like King of 2 miles.

I primarily want to comment on the price, which absolutely does not correspond to reality. On our website, the price for 100pcs ATP Smooth 50gr is 12.15 euro = 13.12 USD, on the scout website, the price is 22.5USD, even with the price of a larger order, it is 20 USD per 100pcs. This is a direct true price comparison.
If, for example, the transport was handled by ship in the number in which they export, for example, JSB (i.e. containers ), then the cost of transport will affect the final price very little. Yes, at the moment the price of transport is higher, but it will be the same if Scout sends slugs to Europe by air like we send our slugs to US.

Long_Shot said:

Data shot from my gun doesn't actually show a 17% difference in BC. Just for a reference here.
Due to crappy weather looks like there will be an in the wind test tomorrow out to 500+ yards.



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Even at 100,200,and 300 yards the chronys theoretical data below shows decent velocity and Ft Lbs for a well designed HP to still work effectively.

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if you want to measure something accurately it is need use the right tool, unfortunately, this device looks like it, but it is no.
The FX True Ballistic Chronograph is mostly a random number generator as far as BC measurements are concerned.
I've had a LabRadar for many years and recently also bought a garmin CX1 chronometer and the aforementioned FX "True" ballistic radar, as I foolishly thought it would save me time measuring BC (that I wouldn't have to calculate BC from the data like with LabRadar but I will see them directly on the screen).
The reality is that the FX radar can produce somewhat usable results after firing 25+ shots, averaging them out to be at least remotely close to reality. It can be seen with every measurement when the current BC is even tenth different from each other (yes, a tenth when the BC measurement is, for example, 0.25).
After several tests, I decided to sell this FX radar, because LabRadar is much, much better for measuring BC (gives real results when operated correctly). Maybe this product works well for firearms, but for BT slugs to measure BC, LabRadar is much better.

On the contrary, the new garmin CX1 chronometer is a very good gear and fills the gabe where I don't want to carry a big heavy LabRadar only to check the MV and its consistency.

I believe the most important factor that's being overlooked is that Skout has a high BC slug and slug barrels that will be tested at 100 yards before they leave the factory and that they guarantee accuracy.
This is ground breaking in the airgun industry. We've all seen the struggle that the majority of airgunners have had to endure with ALL slug and airgun combinations. Skout is offering a turn-key solution.

Swish said:

I believe the most important factor that's being overlooked is that Skout has a high BC slug and slug barrels that will be tested at 100 yards before they leave the factory and that they guarantee accuracy.
This is ground breaking in the airgun industry. We've all seen the struggle that the majority of airgunners have had to endure with ALL slug and airgun combinations. Skout is offering a turn-key solution.

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That is truly a breakthrough, even if other slugs may be cheaper, or have a slightly better ballistic performance.
Being able to purchase an airgun and slug barrel, or an Airgun with a slug barrel that works out of the box is revolutionary, especially guaranteed 10 shot MOA performance at 100 yards.
I don’t know how many thousands of slugs I have shot trying to get acceptable performance from other gun/barrel/slug combinations. The time saved can be used to become a better shooter.
IF this is proven in competition, shooters will move towards this platform.
My only con is price. It’s hard to practice hundreds of shots each practice session at $20 per hundred.