I have seen posts about scammers ripping off buyers, how does a seller protect against a buyer stopping payment as an example after the gun has been shipped.
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- Thread starter coastal drifter
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If its a personal check, don't ship until the check has been collected by your bank. Or, avoid the risk and require some form of official check.
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so your saying that the seller should not trust the buyer BUT the buyer has to trust the seller to ship said item at a later date ? Trust is a two way street ! Both should sent the on the same day and include tracking numbers .
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every time i have bought on here (not many times ) the seller has always Emailed me within an hour with a tracking number of the item , and one time they had already sent the day before .
But with all this paranoia i now only buy or sell face to face , cash and carry .
But with all this paranoia i now only buy or sell face to face , cash and carry .
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I have only bought a couple of airguns here and always had to use paypal.
I have in the past and last time was about six weeks ago ordered fome firearms on the internet, using my C&R license, sent a personal check an a signed coply of the license as required and had shipment the same or next day after the dealer received the check and license so no time for check to clear. I did purchase several old military rifles, but that was 15-20 years ago so specifics of purchase details are a bit fuzzy I did order a Marlin 39a mountie from a dealer in Conn. to be delivered to me in Texas, and when Inquired about the C&R status and perfered payment, he wanted the check vs credit card, and again as I said, shipped the day he got my check and license copy. A few weeks ago it was from a dealer in Ga for a little S&W 22/32 kit gun and again the same treatment there. From my limited experience I am thinking some of those dealers are having good experiences with C&R license holder.s
I have in the past and last time was about six weeks ago ordered fome firearms on the internet, using my C&R license, sent a personal check an a signed coply of the license as required and had shipment the same or next day after the dealer received the check and license so no time for check to clear. I did purchase several old military rifles, but that was 15-20 years ago so specifics of purchase details are a bit fuzzy I did order a Marlin 39a mountie from a dealer in Conn. to be delivered to me in Texas, and when Inquired about the C&R status and perfered payment, he wanted the check vs credit card, and again as I said, shipped the day he got my check and license copy. A few weeks ago it was from a dealer in Ga for a little S&W 22/32 kit gun and again the same treatment there. From my limited experience I am thinking some of those dealers are having good experiences with C&R license holder.s
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That's exactly what I'm saying. I've never shipped a rifle I sold until the money was collected. Similarly, I've never received a purchased rifle until my check had been collected by the seller. It's a buyer's risk, never known it to work otherwise. It's a lot easier for the buyer to verify the seller's possession of the rifle, than for the seller to confirm that the buyer has the money.
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History lesson: Yo, Douger, Josh3rd and Baxter Walton were all stand up guys in good standing on the forum at one time.
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For small items I will look at their feedback, length of time on the forum, etc.
Higher value things deserve a phone call, internet search, links to their other online sales, some homework. Anything sketchy don't send them $.
USPS Money Orders are best because if they rip you off it's considered mail fraud, a federal crime treated more severely than bouncing a check or scamming PayPal. At least that's what I read on the internet...
Sometimes I use PayPal or other expedient methods but reluctantly because of their ignorant policies and political stances.
Higher value things deserve a phone call, internet search, links to their other online sales, some homework. Anything sketchy don't send them $.
USPS Money Orders are best because if they rip you off it's considered mail fraud, a federal crime treated more severely than bouncing a check or scamming PayPal. At least that's what I read on the internet...
Sometimes I use PayPal or other expedient methods but reluctantly because of their ignorant policies and political stances.
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I have belonged to several PB forums and still do to a couple.
In the years that I have belonged to forums the issue of buying from fellow forum members and getting ripped off has never been discussed anywhere near as much as here.
Are air gunners a mistrusting lot or are there more bad actors in our midst?
In the years that I have belonged to forums the issue of buying from fellow forum members and getting ripped off has never been discussed anywhere near as much as here.
Are air gunners a mistrusting lot or are there more bad actors in our midst?
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For generations, hunters and shooters have felt a kinship. And this would refer to firearms, not air rifles. The airgun hobby is newer, and the high end precision market even newer, and it probably includes a lot of folks who are not historically "gun people", and thus there is not the same inherent mutual trust. I don't know if there are many (or any) more bad actors, but there is definitely a fear of it. I may be totally wrong, just my opinion.
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