I have used a circle front hole in the clear polycarbonite for years. Good on circular targets, just get an even ring around a black(or colored) target, I also plink on soda cans out to about 50 yards using one.
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N/A Open sights sight picture?
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At the ranges I usually shoot, I set my near zero for a 6-o'clock hold and work a gap out to the far zero (which is usually much farther than I'll shoot with irons these days). I've got an aperture rear and plain blade front sight (no hood, no dots). I can usually keep my shots on a bottle cap out to 30-35 yards. I tend to be quicker on the shot with irons and I am preferring it when hunting these days.
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Made myself a cardboard temple and got a tin of spray paint… now I’ve got something a bit bigger then 1.5inches to focus on 
will use the smaller ones for 20y and the bigger one for 30y. 
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This small I use at 25y irons (7/8+)
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The sight is set for 1-1/2 bull using 6 o'clock hold ... Just a fyi
P.s..
The sight is set for 1-1/2 bull using 6 o'clock hold ... Just a fyi
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I have a pretty solid cheek weld onto the comb when I shoulder my Diana 54.
I’ve noticed that with my solid and repeatable cheek weld, I almost exclusively use only my front sight for aiming, and I’ve been wondering if removing the back sight completely would have any effect on accuracy
I’ve noticed that with my solid and repeatable cheek weld, I almost exclusively use only my front sight for aiming, and I’ve been wondering if removing the back sight completely would have any effect on accuracy
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I look at everything as a whole rear to front to target everything needs to be lined up. You can't just look at 1/2 of what your doing , right?
Opinion.
Opinion.
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Bottom1/2 if I'm hungry and got hot grease..
In-between yard work chores
Same 25, irons cphp, r9
I rest the forend only so it's not like I'm fully freehand .. just to be fair .
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I like a 3-4” bull. Even better if the center 1” is white.
Occasionally, I shoot a 3/4” bull to practice for Squirrels. The bigger targets are more representative of a hare
Occasionally, I shoot a 3/4” bull to practice for Squirrels. The bigger targets are more representative of a hare
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No prob.. don't matter if it's 1mm or one mile around the center of the circle remains the same ..lol the center is the center no matter how big the circle is ..
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Bottom1/2 if I'm hungry and got hot grease..
In-between yard work chores
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Same 25, irons cphp, r9
I rest the forend only so it's not like I'm fully freehand .. just to be fair .
Mmmmm.... deep fried mermaid.
I could eat one sashimi style. Maybe with a little lime juice and jalapeños.
I shoot targets rested. I'm shooting for a pattern or zeroing so it makes sense. The HW's will sure print a nice pattern off a rest.
The Hatsans will do better offhand than rested if I'm in the groove. 1" @25 is about all you can expect. They jump around and twist off a rest. I know I could improve them with a little sandpaper and a washer behind the spring but I don't. They shoot as well as I do offhand so I don't bother with it.
I like to shoot tiny objects rather than paper. Once I establish a pattern and get it on center I don't shoot at dots anymore. If they made a paper target that would jump, scream or bleed when you hit it I might do it more often.
Until then it's shotgun shells and green army men. I just love to see them fly downrange and try to hit them again. Past 45 yards it's plastic toy dinosaurs and safari animals. They sound sweet when you hit and they collect pellets inside. They rattle. I dig that. I can set out 50 targets and never have one at the same range.
I'm not worried about misses. I learn from every one. It's true that we often learn more from our failures than our successes. So I always shoot at targets that are too small to hit easily. I'm happy missing at 70 yard shotgun shells as long as all my misses are close.
With tiny objects it's fun. If you miss its no big deal because the target is too small to hit anyway. If you hit one you feel like a pro. It's good either way.
I have those little green army men down out to 35 yards or so. And a shotgun shell out to 45. I can hit them nicely offhand. Even if they fall into a rut and are barely visible. I can almost hit them offhand as well as rested with a scope out to 45. At that point things get tough.
I shoot the same targets with a scope off a rest. Different guns. Shotgun shells at 80-90 is where things get tough. With wind it gets tough at 60. Green army men aren't much harder than shotgun shells. I can get regular hits out to 60 with no wind.
It's just more satisfying for me than paper. Targets have a place in perfecting your gun and getting a perfect zero. But after that they just bore me.
I can't improve much as a shooter sitting at a rest. I can shoot patterns near the limits of the hardware. To shoot better patterns I need to fiddle with the hardware. But every shooter can improve their offhand game.
Almost any cheap rifle will teach you form and trigger timing. If they will only shoot 2" patterns at 25 yards that's cool. Just get a plastic dinosaurs that big and start banging away at it. Before long you will be hitting it every shot and your skill is better. For me it's not about every shot being perfect. It's about being able to hold the rifle and time the trigger. Any rifle can teach you that.
When I realized I was shooting to the limits of the Hatsan I bought an HW95. It's a much tighter shooting rifle. I hit way better offhand with it. But I like to pump out 200-300 shots almost every afternoon.
I quickly realized I was going to shoot that sweet gun to death like a dozen Hatsans before. I put a scope on it and hardly ever shoot it now. My son loves it because he can sit at a tripod and outshoot me....if I'm standing like a Sandhill crane in the wind holding a Hatsan. So I did the logical thing and bought a 97k.
I still shoot the Hatsans daily. I love them in all their rough imperfection. If I'm in a slump I pick up an HW with a scope, sit down and change the game for a while. But it does not last long. I'll go back to the iron sights and stand there until my back freezes up and my legs are numb.
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My hatsans all gone flat . They were fine while they lasted I guess. I got threads on them here somewhere.
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I have a closet full of flat hatsans too. I just keep ordering new ones and shipping them off to be fixed. They are like a disposable cigarette lighter. When the gig is up its done.
I'm going to cabbage parts from the broken ones and rebuild a couple one of these days. Maybe when the snow flies. I think there are 5 or 6 in the junk pile now. The triggers are a huge problem despite the pull being fairly nice. I can buy a couple new triggers and a spring/seal set and put a couple back on line. I can get 10k shots out of them for about $60 each. A new one with a warranty is only $129 at Airgun Depot so it's hardly worth the time to fix them.
I'll keep shooting them though. They are a good value despite the trouble.
Flat hatsans are no big issue for me. But flat mermaids I'll toss back into the water.
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I guess . It a dar if I do datn if I don't fix them . Fixing is as much as a referb deal ..lol
But my favorite hurt my feelings
But my favorite hurt my feelings
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What the heck is that thing? I know nothing about air pistols.
Looks like it shoots well.
Love is a rose brother. I feel you.
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If needing another 2-3" bulls idea I use old pellet tins and black paint .. I keep a good supply of the cphp tins ..lolMade myself a cardboard temple and got a tin of spray paint… now I’ve got something a bit bigger then 1.5inches to focus on
I hung tis at 50y with the gamo on irons
A slight cave in it was brown paper sack and I did not use a backing cardboard ..lol
Straighten out
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That one's no longer made or available in the USA . Just the cheezzy QE junk
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Best target to shoot is simple, a circle with whatever color works for your eyes giving the best contrast/focus with your sights with zero eye strain. Color is different for different people. If you shoot organized bullseye, of course you shoot the exact targets you use in competitions most of the time so it is always consistent.
Sight picture is situational for me, at least when i was younger and iron sights were not a detriment even at 600 yards.
If you shoot different sized targets at the same distance regularly, bisect the target with your blade. If you shoot different size targets at different distances, you have to skip having the blade in a certain relationship with the target and learn your trajectories and holds through a ton of practice.
If you shoot the same size target at known distance(s) most of the time, target sits on top of the blade for best result. Case in point, I shot service rifle in my late teens to mid 20's, thousands of rounds of 308 a month in practice and competition. I hated the matches done with simulated range targets, and almost never went to one of those, only the full size targets at full range. Target was on top of the blade always back then, never even heard of a competitor doing different. Early on I experimented in practice, much to the chagrin of the man that got me into it, and scores always better over a course of fire with target on top of blade, not by much, but every point counts.
Same with handguns on standard targets, but my hunting revolvers were all set up for point of impact hold, subsonics were 50 yards zero, 1300+ fps magnums were 75 yard zero, and one revolver was set up with 4 position front site for shooting silhouette competitions so it had 4 zeroes with corresponding silhouette sitting on top of blade in the sight picture. Only scoped PB I had in the first decade of owning firearms was a 10/22, everything else was always irons, I include peeps in irons.
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