RTI RTI Mora Received - Bad Regulator?

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That black plastic in the hex screw hole hides another allen hex screw that adjusts the pressure.


You could have been sent a sample non adjustable regulator. Suggest you talk to ROK. He might ask you to drill a small hole in the center of the black plastic piece and pry it out to access the 6mm allen screw for the adjustment.

Or Rok could ask you to send it back.

Saying that, the seller should have checked the functionality if the gun before sending it out. Its cool to be amongst the 1st few to get the gun but it sucks big time to get a flawed product with no instructions to guide a newbie owner.

Since I am handy with mechanical things, I would ask Rok for guidance to get it working or he might send you a new regulator but sending the gun back would be my last choice. So do what you need to at your own risk.
 
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kevtan said:
That black plastic in the hex screw hole hides another allen hex screw that adjusts the pressure.

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The plastic is like bonded to it. There's no other screw bit under it.
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Isn't selling a gun without a manual putting the cart before the horse? Leads me to wonder about what other shortcuts the company may take in releasing products to consumers? I was interested in the gun probably still am, but I will wait until it's in the hands of many people in the bugs are ringed out and get an accurate hopefully not bias assessment on how the gun really works.
 
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droyd said:
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The black plastic piece is suppose to be the 6mm allen adjustment screw. Saw the thrust bearing in the previous pic that was suppose to be between the adjustment screw and the base of the belville springs.

Does the black plastic piece have a hex cutout in the hole side? If it does then just drill a small hole for the belville stack post to pass thru , turn it upside down and use an allen wrench to tighten.

You need to get the missing part from RTI.
 
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Wonder if his rifle was accidentally fitted with one of the non-adjustable ones they make for countries with rules and limitations such things.

Pic is from RTI's gallery of the mora, can clearly see what an adjustable one looks like.
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This is a regulator from the P series, but the adjustment is supposed to be the same on the external. 1/4 turns, dry fire, move again (yes, I know this is only supposed to be for lowering but better safe than sorry). Also a You Tube vid about adjusting the MORA but not going to rewatch them to find it.
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BlackICE said:
Isn't selling a gun without a manual putting the cart before the horse? Leads me to wonder about what other shortcuts the company may take in releasing products to consumers? I was interested in the gun probably still am, but I will wait until it's in the hands of many people in the bugs are ringed out and get an accurate hopefully not bias assessment on how the gun really works.
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To this day FX is still shipping guns with the wrong manuals and they've known about the issue for years. My WIldcat came with an M3 manual and just recently someone put up a thread about their DRS and one of the complaints was a wrong manual. Both are potentially dangerous but at least no manual would make some look to the manufacturer website for answers.

Not defending them as I agree, just don't know the deets as it could have been the distributor that shorted the materials. FWIW, RTI doesn't have a manual on their site yet but there are other valuable resources on there that would help.
 
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IndyDurtdigger said:
"Wonder if his rifle was accidentally fitted with one of the non-adjustable ones they make for countries with rules and limitations such things."
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Just confirmed with Rok this morning this is what happened. It came with one that is supposed to be non-adjustable. Didn't mention he'll send me the correct screw so I've asked him about it as I don't have the correct screw.
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"Not defending them as I agree, just don't know the deets as it could have been the distributor that shorted the materials."
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This is most likely the distributor. Here's the email they sent about sending it early:
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droyd said:
Just confirmed with Rok this morning this is what happened. It came with one that is supposed to be non-adjustable. Didn't mention he'll send me the correct screw so I've asked him about it as I don't have the correct screw.

This is most likely the distributor. Here's the email they sent about sending it early:View attachment 486998View attachment 486999
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Fingers crossed they can get you some resolution rather quickly. In the meantime, I'd just shoot it and get to know it as is. Stuff like this is why I decided to wait a little bit before ordering one, but I can always call the guy I order from, and he'll be up front with me about anything amiss that he's aware of. Highly recommend Talon Tunes. He personally tunes, test fires, etc everything he sells and makes a phone call before shipping it out. I'm sure others do this, he's just the one I stumbled across.
 
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IndyDurtdigger said:
Fingers crossed they can get you some resolution rather quickly. In the meantime, I'd just shoot it and get to know it as is. Stuff like this is why I decided to wait a little bit before ordering one, but I can always call the guy I order from, and he'll be up front with me about anything amiss that he's aware of. Highly recommend Talon Tunes. He personally tunes, test fires, etc everything he sells and makes a phone call before shipping it out. I'm sure others do this, he's just the one I stumbled across.
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Yeeaaa I'm really wishing I ordered from him and not from overseas.
 
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My first Prophet was purchased from RTIarmsshop, leaking regulator from day one.

3 months waiting and nothing was resolved, I did eventually receive a replacement reg. It dumped air as fast as it filled.

Contacted RTI directly, they had me sorted and shooting in a couple of weeks. Good service.

Prophet 2, dumped air before I fired a shot.
Few other problems, RTI took care of them.
Even arranged collection from my house.

Returned, new valve, new barrel and what ever else. Shooting well, actually impressive.

Regulator takes a wobbly, new internals direct from RTI, week later, assisted valve dumped air again, new valve delivered from RTI, but it wasn't hardened, or tempered, full instructions given by RTI, use gas blowtorch, heat and temper etc. 😃.

Fitted the replacement valve, RTI , suggest I don't use it ! Replacement, fully tempered one is in the mail. Another strip down. Head hurting 🤕.

Overall, RTI directly have been very supportive. Something rare these days.

Prophet 2, to date and well out of warranty has less than 500 pellets fired, regulator currently waiting for correct o rings, it spends more time in bits than shooting.

It's been a learning curve. I still don't have any manual for the P2, the forgotten Prophet!

For months I was waiting and eagerly wanted the Mora, experience told me to wait, fortunately.

Some of RTI barrels are the best I've encountered in years of shooting, the simple technology also stimulating.

A exciting and motivating PCP but I'm sure my RTI expenditure is over. 2 Prophets, 6 barrels , 5 regulators.

Hopefully the Mora lives up to people's expectations and reliability. Fingers crossed 🤞.

Almost forgot, my prophet 1 also had a replacement barrel, bad crown.
That was sorted before I got the p1 compact.
Air rifle activities on YouTube reviewed my p1 compact before I even handled it.

I'm a RTI fan, user and part of, " bash head off wall brigade", stubborn.

Not a moan about RTI, simply a overview of my experience.

Gary.
 
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droyd said:
RTI seems to be very good, especially with Rok putting up with all of my emails. Even answered me from his phone on the weekend. The .shop however, eh. They're not able to send me the correct adjustment screw apparently. I'm still waiting to hear back from Rok on my previous email from this morning.
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Is the problem already sorted? if so, how is the accuracy of the rifle? :)
 
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dynamischyteit said:
Is the problem already sorted? if so, how is the accuracy of the rifle? :)
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The problem is sorted, yes. Just had to pop out the plastic bit by inserting 4mm allen wrench from the bottom and give it a good thwack with the hammer.

The accuracy is pretty great it only likes the H&N slugs. I've tried the FX Hybrids, Javelin, JSB Knockout, NSA, and Zan slugs from 850 to 1000 fps giving a good three groups at each speed at 50m. About an inch group each, but the H&N slugs were the only one to give a one hole group. It has potential to do a one hole group at 100 meters but I'm still waiting for a cheek rest. I'll get a one hole about every 5-10 group attempts.

I will say one observation though, at 120bar and below (haven't needed to go above this at any point trying <40gr slugs) the hammer spring does absolutely nothing no matter which way I turn it. I have to use the... thing... that closes the valve quicker... to really get the speed spread tightened. I'm thinking it might be that the hammer is geared more towards the .30 and .357 calibers at the higher pressures so it's just overpowering at the lower pressures. I've turned the hammer spring anti-clockwise until the thing pops off the spring and I have to push on it and turn it to get it threaded back on and the speed won't change. Clockwise I can hear it hitting the valve harder (and it hurts my ears) and it requires more effort (still barely any though) to cock, speed won't change or will go down slightly. It's very strange. Again though, I don't have the manual so I can't tell which way to go for changing the hammer.

Pellets though, FX atomics around 920 fps are great, JSB Mkii, 33.something grains are great as well. Haven't bothered with the pellets too much since I found it really likes the H&N's so much.
 
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droyd said:
The accuracy is pretty great it only likes the H&N slugs.
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nice! Hope to see some results in the feature.
droyd said:
It has potential to do a one hole group at 100 meters
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yea its a brand new rifle. it'll shoot better over time when barrel gets more shots and the system has settled.
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I'm thinking it might be that the hammer is geared more towards the .30 and .357 calibers at the higher pressures so it's just overpowering at the lower pressures.
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Thats possible indeed. For the brk ghost its also possible to buy different hammer weights and springs for different power levels, if om correct.
I guess on the Mora you can get a low power tune by lower the regulator pressures and limiting the valve travel with that knob, but its far from ideal. I think you need to adjust the hammer spring for a given reg pressure for a good stable tune.
not just limiting the valve travel with that knob. The valve travel adjuster knob is for finer adjustments. the reg and hammer spring have to work in harmony.
Maybe ask rti about it..
droyd said:
Clockwise I can hear it hitting the valve harder
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sounds like you're turning it in the right direction then.
 
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