Diana Ghost ring suggestions?

Not really a ghost ring but the Tech sights for a CZ will fit that rail fine. I'm not gonna garenntee your front sight will be compatible because of the extra height the Diana rail adds. You might be able to get or make a riser for yours.

I've used Williams with ghost rings and found my older eyes can't get a sight picture any better than the standard irons. The Tech sights are a much more solid sight and IMO look sleeker than the William FP-AGs. The Tech Sights come with a 0.062" apature that works well for me in most situations. The Williams .050 was sharper but difficult to find targets in dimmer conditions. The Williams comes with .092 that I found better in dim conditions but not sharp enough. The 0.062" is a real good blend for me. Sharp and bright enough for most situations. It also has a small OD so it virtually disappears like a ghost ring when used.

FWIW quick target acquisition as more to do with practice and muscle memory.

I think that Tech sight will just walk off the rail of a 54.

c_m_shooter said:

I think that Tech sight will just walk off the rail of a 54.

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Nope. I've had them hold on my R1 when it was pushing 20 fpe and breaking everything.

You can get 3 different height front sights for the Diana rifles. So if the rear sight is a bit high you can fix it.

I have a Williams peep that is a good sight and it works with the medium height "korntunnel" up front on my 34. It's not a ghost ring. I see they make a ghost ring blade for pistol but I'm not sure if you can use it on their standard peep.

Does that CZ sight line up in the middle or is it a bit offset due to the difference in dovetail width? That is the issue I have with most scope mounts and peeps they are made to mount on a range of widths and are a bit cockeyed on some dovetails. No huge issue but zero is often right of center on the indicator marks.

I've tried a bunch of scope mounts and the only ones that center properly are the ones that "spring" or "bend" to clamp. The Diana "11mm" rails are narrower than the Hatsan "11mm" rails. About the same as the HW "11 mm" rails. Not much different but enough to notice the mount is not truly centered. I figure iron sight clamps are the same. They are with the Williams peep...

No biggie. But it's aggravating to see the mount off center with the gun and the sights adjusted to the right of center.

I've never had a problem with a peep moving or shaking loose. They are light and low and not much inertia. Much different than a big fat scope mounted high. Even on a hard kicking Hatsan the peep stays solid even though the clamp is a delicate affair.

Scope mounts HAVE been an issue. The Sportsmatch 2 piece have been dandy. Other mounts not so much. I gave up shopping for mounts and just buy Sportsmatch. Never a slip on any of my rifles. They really hold and are trouble free.

The tech sights are some sort of cast steel so they're heavier than the delicate Williams aluminum sights. The tech sight clamp is steel and significant. Still neither move on me. IMO the tech sight is a much better method of attachment.

The tech sight is made to fit various rimfire models. The rear tech sight is the same across many rimfire kits. They center close enough on my Weihrauchs to satisfy my OCD. There's a CZ model that has a flat bottom and it's sold without a front sight. That'll fit your Diana flat rail just fine.

Because of my Weihrauchs rounded receiver I need to order the same rear sight that's milled for a Remington rounded receiver. I have to ask them to ship it without the Remington front sight. They're good people too deal with and accommodated me.

Tip. The elevation crown is tricky to adjust without their little $5 adjusting tool. Well worth five bucks. Get it.

I'm curious what you think of as a "ghost ring" exactly? To me, it's simply a much bigger than usual peep sight opening, like on a shotgun sight.

The traditional old-timer's trick for shooting a peep in low light - which also makes a fine ghost ring to my mind - is to stick the eye disk in your pocket and shoot through the mounting hole. A Williams sight would be great for that.

MDriskill said:

I'm curious what you think of as a "ghost ring" exactly? To me, it's simply a much bigger than usual peep sight opening, like on a shotgun sight.

The traditional old-timer's trick for shooting a peep in low light - which also makes a fine ghost ring to my mind - is to stick the eye disk in your pocket and shoot through the mounting hole. A Williams sight would be great for that.

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I've tried the Williams without the disk. For me I couldn't get a reasonably sharp front post without the aperture. The hole is too big for my eyes. For young eyes I imagine that would work great.

The small OD of the Tech Sight disappears when held to my eye so it doesn't obscure the target area. Yet the 0.062 aperture still gives me a sharp enough front post. The best working combination for me is a ten dollar plastic fiber optic front sight and the infantry style Tech sight. From a purist standpoint it's ugly as hell but getting old sucks and sometimes we have to give up good looking traditional stuff to retain functionality.

Indeed, you totally lose the view-sharpening "diopter effect" when looking through such a large opening. I definitely won't be tossing my eye disks any time soon! Yet the human eye is so good at finding the center of a circle - even a big fuzzy one - you can shoot better than you might think that way. Williams' smallest eye disk is 3/8" diameter with about an .085" opening which is also good.

Just for giggles, here's a favorite ghost-ring sight of mine. This Parker-Hale PH 16M sight was an option on Webley Mk 3 sporters back in the day, and its usual disk was a dinky 5/16" in diameter witn an opening about .06".

MDriskill said:

Indeed, you totally lose the view-sharpening "diopter effect" when looking through such a large opening. I definitely won't be tossing my eye disks any time soon! Yet the human eye is so good at finding the center of a circle - even a big fuzzy one - you can shoot better than you might think that way. Williams' smallest eye disk is 3/8" diameter with about an .085" opening which is also good.

Just for giggles, here's a favorite ghost-ring sight of mine. This Parker-Hale PH 16M sight was an option on Webley Mk 3 sporters back in the day, and its usual disk was a dinky 5/16" in diameter witn an opening about .06".

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It's not finding the center of a fuzzy circle that's problematic for me. It's seein the front post. The larger the aperture the fuzzier the front post gets for me. I know you know this but for the benefit of others, the closer the aperture to your eye the sharper the sight picture. That why classic target diopters hang way back of the receiver. There will come a day when all my sighting band aids won't be enough and I'll have to go all optics. Or get my eyes fixed like Crow.