DNT Optics ThermNight TNC225R

@Coinwa The Notos is a real PITA. I added an additional .47 inch riser to my set up, because I wanted to bridge the front and back. I thought that would give me a more secure mount that overtime would not shift, and allow me to bring the scope back more with less stress on the front rail. But that was a mistake. It completely ruined zero. I had single digit X/Y with the 20 MOA mount using the front rail only.

When using the back rail, I wasn't even hitting paper anymore, and had to move in to 10yard to see I was off 6-8" (shooting hard left). I tried aligning them with a straight edge, I drilled holes in the the first riser so I could adjust the rear Rail to align it to the front. I Spent a few hours trying to get it to align without the need for shims. I finally gave in, and shimmed the one riser at the back to correct the X (left/right). I'm now a 6 on X and 22 on Y.... I'm going to work on getting the Y a little bit better. Probably not a gun that you can pop the scope off and put back and expect the same zero... too much sloppiness with the plastic rails.

I also had to grind away one of the slots on the first rear riser, as the front and back are not properly spaced. I'm probably using too many risers, and all errors in manufacturing are compounding, but for now at 21 yards, I'm zerod well enough. And the height is much more enjoyable. I could still come back more, which I may give that a go when I know I have time to fuss around with shims.

Agreed on the Notos “pic rail” goat rodeo. It’s truly the weak link on that gun. They are accurate, but not very consistent.

I sighted in the DTN, put the Notos on the front seat of the truck, and drove out to the dairy (2.5 miles). Pulled it out of the truck, loaded up a magazine, and it was about an inch low-right at 25 yards.

Mounting a ridged steel optic to a piece of plastic that’s fastened to a steel/aluminum gun (on only one end)… doesn’t seem like the most skookum path to consistency.

I’m leaving it off the Notos for good. It’s performing well on the .30 though.

Finally got everything lined out with the ballistic function. Had to use 4.5” on the sight height, then it jived pretty well. Will still need to play with the BC and velocity to true it up perfectly. This collared dove took at .30 cal Hybrid and still managed to fly about 10 yards.

still shot of the slug, just before impact… a touch high on the crosshairs. I adjusted the sight-height again after this shot.

I was just wondering which one did you guys like the most for hunting with for bigger game like coyotes and hogs the 3-12 or 5-20?

It is going on my Texan 457

Llama said:

I was just wondering which one did you guys like the most for hunting with for bigger game like coyotes and hogs the 3-12 or 5-20?

It is going on my Texan 457

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If you want the thermal unit, there's not a second choice. The thermal portion of the unit is 3-12 magnification and the night vision portion is 5-20 magnification.

Airgun-hobbyist said:

If you want the thermal unit, there's not a second choice. The thermal portion of the unit is 3-12 magnification and the night vision portion is 5-20 magnification.
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That makes sense

Base 5x on the IR and daytime functions has provided plenty of field of view for my liking.

The dual mode PIP is fantastic, and you can turn it on/off with a simple hold of the button.

For the extra $200 or so over the Zulus, the thermal adds a whole new layer of awesome!

Big shout out to @brawler1588 for taking the time to help me out and answering some questions i had on mounting options for the new thermal. I appreciate the help!

I will be buying 1 today and I will report back with my findings when it gets mounted and put through the paces.

I’ll second that. Brawler has been awesome in answering my questions too, and is incredibly knowledgeable and helpful.

I’m enjoying my new 3x12 zulus on my Agt Vixen. Probably going with this Thermnight for my next rifle.

I’m curious about the 65 MOA mounting kit and what it’s for? Is this to raise the angle of the scope up for long distance shooting? To account for pellet drop?

brawler1588 said:

65? I use a 108moa adjustable eaglevision mount. Some slower speeds or rifles with 0moa rail or shooting at farther distances will make the reticle to low and that's where the Moa mounts come into play. The 35moa we sell at DNT is usually plenty the eaglevision just allows you to adjust windage as well.

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Thanks yes I meant 35.

Ir wavelength module — Why?

Why would you want one over the other?

Never thought of that, less visible to the naked eye.

Security cameras = 850 nm - can see the red glow while looking at them

PVS 14 = 940 nm - can‘t see it although I’m not entirely sure I have ever looked directly at one

My security cameras can’t see the 940nm wavelength but the PVS 14 can see both

Guess the camera in the Zulus can see both as well…

Not so sure it matters much in the airgun world.

Heavyopp said:

Never thought of that, less visible to the naked eye.

Security cameras = 850 nm - can see the red glow while looking at them

PVS 14 = 940 nm - can‘t see it although I’m not entirely sure I have ever looked directly at one

My security cameras can’t see the 940nm wavelength but the PVS 14 can see both

Guess the camera in the Zulus can see both as well…

Not so sure it matters much in the airgun world.

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PVS 14 is not emitting ir. That's why your camera doesn't see it. PVS 14 doesn't work like digital NV scopes that requires an ir light source.