Should airguns come with a disclaimer… If a person is scared to change an O-ring… should they buy an Airgun?
Airgun ownership.
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Should home owners own homes? If they can't change their water heater, fix their plumbing in event of leaks, re-wire the home in case of electrical shorts...
-Matt
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Should car owners own cars, if they can't re-hone their cylinders, change timing belts, and dismount, re-mount and balance their own tires?
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-Matt
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If you own any airgun, I belive you should be able to work on them.
Yes and no. If you cannot do the little things. Do not get on here and complain about it when you have to spend extra. Houses and cars are mutli-transactional before a finished product and millions in QC before hand. They are more like model airplanes, tou can get away Cheaper if you can fix, but if not it will always cost more.
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Yes, men should do that. Maybe not balancing tires, because a tire shop is cheaper and so mich easier. Everything else, pretty much yes, if you intend to keep it. If you like stayimg in a loan, rock on. It all comes down to what ypur time is worth vs having to pay someone.
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That is gatekeeping, and toxic masculinity, but you do you.
FWIW I towed for AAA for quite some time, you realize that many, many men don't know how to change a tire or work a jack? Did I shame them or insult them or tell them they shouldn't be car owners? Nah, I did my job, and got them back up and running.
Likewise with troubleshooting the simplest of things, running out of gas, jump starting, banging on the fuel tank to get the fuel pump working again temporarily so they could make it to a shop to repair, swapping fuses...ect.
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I think that it should noted in an owner's manual that routine maintenance will be required. It would be nice if there was a recommended reseal schedule, lube point schematic and schedule, parts lists with sizes and maybe parts numbers for consumable parts (especially o-rings) provided by the manufacturer. For the consumer, it's a good idea to locate an air gunsmith that works on the type of airgun that you may have your eye on before buying it. If you need to ship it out, you know where it's going and have a good idea how much shipping will cost you ahead of time.
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I did not give my son or daughter keys to a car until they changed a tire. Many people cannot but to me that is important and even a bit of a safety issue. I'm sure my son still can, he's better with cars than I am. I am not sure about my daughter but at least there is hope she could do it if she had to.
My Prod is my oldest PCP, purchased new in 2020. It has never needed any repairs. My P35-22 was purchased new a bit later, 2022 I think, and it too has never needed repairs. So it is not a sure thing that at least for a few years a PCP will need an O-ring or something. My Prod also did not need trigger adjustment but I thought it needed retuned for a bit more power. My other 5, including my Caiman, needed the trigger adjusted.
I hope it is not a surprise to new owners when their new pride and joy needs some attention. I'm sure there are ways to get others to do the simple things they typically need but I think it's a lot more practical to just learn to do it. I think it's a bit like cars. I change my own oil and I change filters and plugs and I've changed transmission and rear end fluid. Every time a car needs something I make a decision if I want to do it or pay somebody. I've rebuilt engines and transmissions too but these days I pay for most bigger things. On airguns I've pretty much decided I will just do whatever they need even if they are under warranty. Repairs are too simple and inexpensive to be shipping a gun off for work. But many people do not change their own oil and many don't want to work on their airguns either. I've heard of people purchasing airguns in pieces when somebody thought they could do something and apparently failed. So I accept that the way I do it is not for everybody.
My Prod is my oldest PCP, purchased new in 2020. It has never needed any repairs. My P35-22 was purchased new a bit later, 2022 I think, and it too has never needed repairs. So it is not a sure thing that at least for a few years a PCP will need an O-ring or something. My Prod also did not need trigger adjustment but I thought it needed retuned for a bit more power. My other 5, including my Caiman, needed the trigger adjusted.
I hope it is not a surprise to new owners when their new pride and joy needs some attention. I'm sure there are ways to get others to do the simple things they typically need but I think it's a lot more practical to just learn to do it. I think it's a bit like cars. I change my own oil and I change filters and plugs and I've changed transmission and rear end fluid. Every time a car needs something I make a decision if I want to do it or pay somebody. I've rebuilt engines and transmissions too but these days I pay for most bigger things. On airguns I've pretty much decided I will just do whatever they need even if they are under warranty. Repairs are too simple and inexpensive to be shipping a gun off for work. But many people do not change their own oil and many don't want to work on their airguns either. I've heard of people purchasing airguns in pieces when somebody thought they could do something and apparently failed. So I accept that the way I do it is not for everybody.
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Do manufacturers want me changing o-rings?
Yeah, I'm that guy who shoots then tears it down to see how it all works. If some spring swapping (or removal) and porting happens... Well, we won't talk about that
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Good question. Sometimes this can void a warranty. This should be considered before buying as well.
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I didnt shame anyone. It should be taught as needed skills in life. Young people start life poor 95% of the time and these skills are needed if you cannot afford getting problems fixed. I am glad you have the priviledge of never needing to know this.
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Good question!
[Snark] It would be an excellent idea to have vendors interview prospective buyers in order to determine their abilities. "Sorry, sir but you only qualify for a springer. HPA and Co2 maintenance are way beyond your current mechanical skillset."
That alone would drastically reduce the number of both complaint threads and send-backs. [/Snark]
Cheers,
J~
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[Snark] It would be an excellent idea to have vendors interview prospective buyers in order to determine their abilities. "Sorry, sir but you only qualify for a springer. HPA and Co2 maintenance are way beyond your current mechanical skillset."
That alone would drastically reduce the number of both complaint threads and send-backs. [/Snark]
Cheers,
J~
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Same, i get to diagnose solar panel issues. I am no engineer, i just get it done, whatever it takes, and help others do so as well.
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I don't do not care what a air gun owner can do as long as he or she knows all about safe handling rules .Treat a air gun as you would any gun.
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Toxic masculinity? What a load of crap.
Depends on the oring. Some are super simple, others not so much.
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Why are people whining about O-rings? It's a pneumatic gun. It has to keep the air in somehow. If you're a scared baby and don't want to tear into the gun and see how it works. Please take it to a shop or don't buy it.
O-Rings are a rubber material. It gets old. It cracks it needs to be lubed or be replaced it's part of the deal.
O-Rings are a rubber material. It gets old. It cracks it needs to be lubed or be replaced it's part of the deal.
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When you own something like an FX airgun with 40 o-rings, identifying a leak and changing an o-ring or all 40 o-rings can be intimidating. It’s enough to keep me away.
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