Tank / Gauge Failure

CanMike

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Just had this happen.. Crazy.. Lucky I was just pressure testing and was only at 200 BAR and not higher.

Anyone have this happen? Looks like tank is okay and valave is okay.. Just the O-ring blew out. I had it on tight.

Mike

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You didn't have the valve tightened up enough. The pressures these tanks hold , just the slightest small void will blow the o-ring at the neck. I use 90 durometer o-rings when replacing the valve , and finish tightening the connection with a rubber mallet. What size tank is that ? I have extra 0-rings for the larger tanks with the 7/8 -14 unf valve. If so, pm me and I'll send you a couple.
 
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YA thats what I thought as well.. From my Scuba diving its just hand tightened snug.. I guess these require a little bit more encouragement.

I should have a spare o-ring that was included.. It held for 48 hours and then let go this morning. WE heard a rustling in the garage as the tank started moving around a but.

Thanks for the offer on the o-ring.. I'll hit you up if I need. Its a 4.7L Carbon Tank.

Mike
 
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Was that a replacement o-ring or ..............? I haven't had to crank down on any of my valves for a non-leaking seal either......yet. That's with brand new o-rings correctly sized. Just hand snugged with a dab of silicone grease on the o-ring's mating surfaces. I did have a bottle gauge seal let go, though. Wife and cats didn't respond well to that:eek:
 
I have to take back what I said earlier about a leaky gauge seal. I assumed it was the gauge because I had just reinstalled it before the leak occurred. Wrong! The valve to tank O-ring let go right behind the gauge just like the OP's. Are these a common size in mm? My calipers say 18mm ID x 3mm CS on the blown out ring and valve stem. No spares on hand ....

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I think Humdinger has the Humdinger of an answer here. Cheapo soft O-rings are a very likely suspect. I suspect a soft O-ring is the failure we see here. The failure our OP experienced is extrusion, I'd recommend getting the correct O-ring from the tank manufacturer. The valve being loose on the tank would produce the same failure type, harder O-rings resist extrusion better. That had to be loud and scary when that happened. I plan on filling my CF tank inside a really heavy duty plywood cabinet. I can monitor pressure at the compressor.
 
Sumpin’ ain’t right here. In the enlarged photo below of the OP’s valve and tank neck I see metal on the valve displaced and what almost looks like a roll pin end view.

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I think the o-ring blew out farther and the roll pin is just ice built up
 
I think the o-ring blew out farther and the roll pin is just ice built up
I ain’t buyin’ that. Something was under the valve flange when it was tightened. Maybe the O ring was the wrong size or something. I have installed literally thousands of scba and scuba valves and O rings in hundreds of industrial applications and never ever had an O ring extrude like that. We aren’t getting the whole story here.

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Yup I think the O-ring is just blocking the view making it appear a chunk of metal went with it. The fitting above looks frosty as well. Scary stuff imagine your hand being there when that let go. Have worked with compressed air for a lot of years professionally, I have a healthy respect for 3-4 atmospheres, I reckon that respect should be 10 X for HPA compressors and tanks, esp. when manufactured by folks with zero liability exposure. Play careful guys.