How does the HW 30S compare to the HW 50S? 0.22 versus 0.25?

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I ended up looking on Krale's site for options. For reasons I don't understand, Krale even with shipping, is a lot cheaper than vendors in the USA! If I am missing a good vendor tor these rifle, please let me know.

In summary for anyone who has not read my other thread, I live in a rural area and need to kill rodents and small predators around buildings and things where collateral damage would be bad. I am thinking pass-thru shots and misses mainly that impact things they shouldn't.

For effectiveness on larger things (relative to mice and pigeons), I think I am better served with 0.22 or 0.25 pellets for a bigger thud that would break bones or make a bigger wound channel

I have had shoulder surgery and I am ~8 years away from getting Social Security so while I live an active lifestyle, I also realize I need to be cautious of getting something excessively heavy to cock. An HW 30S would be super easy to cock but, is pretty low on the power side for effectively and humanely killing things with less than perfect shot placement. The HW 50S seems to be a better option for humanely dispatching things but, is cocking it going to be reasonable for me?

What are the trade-offs between the 0.25 and 0.22 options in either of these air rifles? I assume accuracy between both calibers and both air rifles will essentially be the same given a little pellet preference for each air rifle.

TIA,
Sid
 
Both of those are great rifles, but you’ll be hard pressed to find an HW50s in .25, they are scarce as hens teeth (UK only), .177 and .22 are the dominant calibers with occasional .20s out there. The HW30 is only available in .177 and .22 with an occasional .20 being offered.

Either rifles will work on mice and rats. I'm not sure what small predators you're talking about, but predators tend to be tougher and I would go HW50s in .22 (animal dependant though). Pigeons are amazingly robust anywhere but a head shot, recommend a .22 as well.
 
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Opossums (mostly ~6lbs) and Raccoons (up to ~20lbs but most are in the 10~15lb range) are really hard on my Hens along with dogs, some cats, and occasionally a feral hog (though most of the time they are probably looking for the feed my hens get).

Raccoons have also damaged wiring on some of my vehicles in the past so, I have an especially aggressive stance on them. Cats and non-poisonous snakes I try to leave alone unless there is a specific reason to dispatch them as they really help kill mice and rats and a few moles/voles and gophers tearing up my yard and pasture
 
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sidpost said:
Opossums (mostly ~6lbs) and Raccoons (up to ~20lbs but most are in the 10~15lb range) are really hard on my Hens along with dogs, some cats, and occasionally a feral hog (though most of the time they are probably looking for the feed my hens get).

Raccoons have also damaged wiring on some of my vehicles in the past so, I have an especially aggressive stance on them. Cats and non-poisonous snakes I try to leave alone unless there is a specific reason to dispatch them as they really help kill mice and rats and a few moles/voles and gophers tearing up my yard and pasture
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You had me at raccoon.
For those you need a different tool. I feel my HW95 will fill all my needs, but band is are a different story. They want 30+fpe. Could be done with sub 20fpe, but not reliably in my opinion.
 
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You had me at raccoon.
For those you need a different tool. I feel my HW95 will fill all my needs, but band is are a different story. They want 30+fpe. Could be done with sub 20fpe, but not reliably in my opinion.
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Yep, Raccoons would ideally be dealt with a 22Mag but it's not reasonable for all situations.
 
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I am currently overrun with skunks. My 30+ pcp is what I would use, but do not dare touch it off here. Too many houses in every direction.

last night I threw rocks at one.
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If you pick your shots, what is the risk? When in a yard or around bushes, even a miss should dissipate most energy and keep the pellet from flying way off to hit a neighbor's house or car assuming you aren't in a "zero lot line" community.

I have shot opossums against a sheetrock wall with 22LR without damage due to putting the round in the main body so it stopped inside the opossum.
 
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sidpost said:
Opossums (mostly ~6lbs) and Raccoons (up to ~20lbs but most are in the 10~15lb range) are really hard on my Hens along with dogs, some cats, and occasionally a feral hog (though most of the time they are probably looking for the feed my hens get).

Raccoons have also damaged wiring on some of my vehicles in the past so, I have an especially aggressive stance on them. Cats and non-poisonous snakes I try to leave alone unless there is a specific reason to dispatch them as they really help kill mice and rats and a few moles/voles and gophers tearing up my yard and pasture
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HW50 is a great gun , stock out of the box it should be about 26 pounds cocking . >22 would be my choice . Krale is a fantastic supplier , best prices and fast delivery , no worries there . as far as coons are concerned . make a blind to hide behind and shoot less than 50 feet . might have to place a 2nd kill shot , no biggie !
 
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sidpost said:
If you pick your shots, what is the risk? When in a yard or around bushes, even a miss should dissipate most energy and keep the pellet from flying way off to hit a neighbor's house or car assuming you aren't in a "zero lot line" community.

I have shot opossums against a sheetrock wall with 22LR without damage due to putting the round in the main body so it stopped inside the opossum.
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The risk is pass through. Shot a woodchuck up at a friends cabin. The pellet, after passing through the noggin rattled through the trees with authority 50+ yards down range.
35 fpe for me, cannot not be used at home. Even picking the perfect shot.
 
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