If you list an item for example $2000. And then ask the buyer to pay the fees or they won't ship it till you do, that is force. Sure they not putting a gun to your face. But telling someone to do this or they not gonna send the item is being force. Either I pay the fee or im not getting my item even though I paid asking price. That is force. Force doesn't necessarily means they pin you to the ground and tell you to eat sht or die. Lol
Realize that is just shy of a $70 hit your asking seller to absorb / eat
That is not force, you still pay if you want it. Or just get a refund. Most people selling in the classifieds are not a store either, so there is no profit. Usually they are just trying to recoup or get enough for another purchase.
Seller will ask you to pay additional. Say you paid $2000. Fee is $70. They will want that $70 or you ain't getting your item.
if you already paid and they refuse to ship till you added a fee, file a complaint with PP
If stated conversation happen POST seller receiving funds, then stating hey buddy you owe me for fees .. YES A PROBLEM, tho sadly a problem that has no legal cure or really creates leverage to continue said deal if the $70 does not get paid
Actually, it isn't illegal. It is contrary to PayPal's TOS (maybe). PayPal doesn't make law, they make contracts that people are expected to adhere to. Many things in contracts (like TOSs) are not enforceable and I'd bet this is one of them, particularly if both parties consent.
Are you saying you paid for an item at 2k, then the seller comes back as says you owe fees or they won’t ship?
No I'm using $2k as an example. But I have I've buy things from seller and use paypal. They wanted me to pay with friends and family but I choose goods and services. So if I get scam I can report to paypal. They then message me to pay the fees to cover it before they can ship item even though I already paid the asking price.
This is the same thing as businesses adding a "Cash Loss Discount". i.e. credit card fees to your bill. As stated above, if they simply add it to the price you'll be none the wiser.
pretty much between the seller and the buyer, it's none of PPs business. PP protects the buyer unless they know its a (gun) then all bets are off.
So they said they’d take PayPal friends/family but you chose to pay by goods/services? So now the seller is supposed to eat 3.5% because you chose to pay that way?
Do people read paypal TOS when making an account and accepting their terms? Lol. Friends and family is not for buying good. It is for gift. Example your grandma wants to send you money for lunch, she use friends and family. That's what it's called friends and family duh. Now why should a buyer pay by friends and family for good and service when it's against TOS. Paying someone $2000 as family and friends and seller don't send nothing. You are fk. Lol. Doesn't matter if they ask for friends and family, it's against TOS to do so.
You are trying to rationalize your poor decision to:
PayPal has a million silly rules or grey areas in the agreement. We make our own decisions if we want to follow them. Ofcourse you’re not “supposed” to send f&f for sales. Tust me on this one, If a deal go south(w/ g&s). You’ll have to fight them to get money back. More times than not, PayPal doesn’t take the loss.They are ruthless. Both sellers and buyers get burnt. A lot of guys stopped using PayPal.
