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Mythbusting Precision BR

This is my winter project. I want a one piece that will satisfy me but can't afford a good one, so I am to build it. I have a big Miller & various drill presses etc.. No mill but I'll still pull something off (y)
Should be fun.
I look at BR sorta like F1, if your not on the bleeding edge your out..
You can get a brand new PQP lite one piece rest for 600$.

It's actually less than a good bipod and bag.

If you are patient you can probably find a used one in the 400$ range.

Mike
 
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Mike. I am very competent and understand .. I agree. one can not just buy a gun, zero at 50, collect some data and go win.. it does not work like that.
And a sled over a bag and bipod does make all the difference.. You actually have to touch your rifle not just let it sit in a brace and oh so gently pull the trigger. You have to use all ypur fundamentals. Thats not competing. that is someone using aid because they can not shoot that well, or have a underling health concern where the reticle act as a blood presure bpm counter..
All competitions or events should have a equipment standard.

No Tony, not in this particular discipline.

This is not about tactile feel and control but rather reading surrounding conditions and gun abilities.

There are other disciplines that disallow sleds etc. and they have different opinions but in this case, it is what it is and it's a difficult pill to swallow for some.

It's a rich man's game.

As a peasant, I can't play.
 
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No Tony, not in this particular discipline.

This is not about tactile feel and control but rather reading surrounding conditions and gun abilities.

There are other disciplines that disallow sleds etc. and they have different opinions but in this case, it is what it is and it's a difficult pill to swallow for some.

It's a rich man's game.

As a peasant, I can't play.
What are the costly items that you are lacking?

Mike
 
When I hear most people say they can't afford precision benchrest....what they really mean is that they cannot afford it in addition to what the already have spent on shooting things that are not good enough to compete with. In almost all cases, everyone that says this has spent way more on multiple platforms, parts, and support equipment than a competitive precision BR setup would have cost.

Mike
 
I don't want bipod anything for BR. I want a rest with quickest setup that does what it supposed too with exceptional precision. I like old school BR stocks & currently on a barrel mission which is easy to roll thru on RAW actions.
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When I hear most people say they can't afford precision benchrest....what they really mean is that they cannot afford it in addition to what the already have spent on shooting things that are not good enough to compete with. In almost all cases, everyone that says this has spent way more on multiple platforms, parts, and support equipment than a competitive precision BR setup would have cost.

Mike

Time

Time is a rich man's game, this makes me but a peasant.
 
When I hear most people say they can't afford precision benchrest....what they really mean is that they cannot afford it in addition to what the already have spent on shooting things that are not good enough to compete with. In almost all cases, everyone that says this has spent way more on multiple platforms, parts, and support equipment than a competitive precision BR setup would have cost.

Mike

Surely you read this before you posted it? While correct in fact and form, this only serves to push those away that may have tried to compete.
 
People of all income levels above basic poverty find ways to do what they want to do if it means something to them. When I was dirt track racing I watched guys go without electricity so they could buy a drum of fuel or some new tires....and their spouses were on board with it.

Every sport takes a time investment to be any good at it. If there's something out there that allows the average person to be good with no time...it must be really popular....and ultimately meaningless.

This thread is meant to do exactly what the title says.
 
N50 could change the rules to disallow mechanical rests, remote triggers, tethering...and require the shooter to make cheek, shoulder, and hand contact with the gun.

Mike

^ I would prefer this. Not that it would change the names at the top of the leaderboard, but that it would make BR competition more of an organic endeavor.

My 25 year old nephew is getting interested in BR, and as he's looking at the current equipment, he's already thinking of building an electronic servo driven shooting rest for windage and elevation, attaching a "Go Pro" to a scope, and shooting from a laptop, only having to interact with his air rifle to load it. In fact, he can't understand why this isn't already being done.

Is that where things are headed?
 
People of all income levels above basic poverty find ways to do what they want to do if it means something to them. When I was dirt track racing I watched guys go without electricity so they could buy a drum of fuel or some new tires....and their spouses were on board with it.

Every sport takes a time investment to be any good at it. If there's something out there that allows the average person to be good with no time...it must be really popular....and ultimately meaningless.

This thread is meant to do exactly what the title says.
I had dinner last week with a couple who's liquor bill, before food, was 50 USD less than what I paid for my PQP Lite 1-piece rest.

They both also smoke and they both complained about high costs.
 
^ I would prefer this. Not that it would change the names at the top of the leaderboard, but that it would make BR competition more of an organic endeavor.

My 25 year old nephew is getting interested in BR, and as he's looking at the current equipment, he's already thinking of building an electronic servo driven shooting rest for windage and elevation, attaching a "Go Pro" to a scope, and shooting from a laptop, only having to interact with his air rifle to load it. In fact, he can't understand why this isn't already being done.

Is that where things are headed?
He can do that now if he wants...but he won't shoot any better so who really cares? Why rain on his parade for no good reason.
 
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My opinion on BR shooting using so called specialized equipment...
I think that anyone that has these massive lead sleds to mount there rifle in for stability has no beans under there zipper lol.Just about any trained monkey can set up a rifle in a sled of there choice and make good groups. They technically are NOT shooting there rifle!!!! take there sleds away and see how they shoot.. all shooting fundamentals are out the window.. All matches should be bipod and bag. That It! Even the playing field.. Cause lets be realistic. shooting off a bag and bipod is totally different the out of a sled. Yes a sled had purpose. for like zeroing your rifle to minimize fault or tuning purposes..
This is just my opinion so sorry whom ever i may offend.
This post is NOT about shooting from a bench, it is about PRECISION Benchrest shooting:

1. So if any monkey can set up their rifle on a sled and shoot good groups , then you can borrow 1 of my sleds and we can watch you spank @thomasair butt, I will gladly send a banana with the sled for free.

2. The individuals who are the best at shooting off bipod and bag shoot PRS and NRL22, so you have absolutely no need or reason to enter a Precision Benchrest competition with a bag and bipod.

3. Once you have won some major PRS/NRL22 events then go for the Mammoth Sniper Challenge. Win this and all us monkeys will eat a banana in your honor.
 
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This post is NOT about shooting from a bench, it is about PRECISION Benchrest shooting:

1. So if any monkey can set up their rifle on a sled and shoot good groups , then you can borrow 1 of my sleds and we can watch you spank @thomasair butt, I will gladly send a banana with the sled for free.

2. The individuals who are the best at shooting off bipod and bag shoot PRS and NRL22, so you have absolutely no need or reason to enter a Precision Benchrest competition with a bag and bipod.

3. Once you have won some major PRS/NRL22 events then go for the Mammoth Sniper Challenge. Win this and all us monkeys will eat a banana in your honor.
Id nearly bet mike could outshoot him and his bag/bipod, offhand, standing beside the bench. This guys trolling. End of the day, rules are the exact same for everyone playing. Dont like the rules, find another game to play, or better yet, start your own game.