Already Googled and YouTubed the Begeebees out of this and found scant info. Looking for high end advice on how to shoot a break barrel air rifle from a prone position. I've tried a fluffy rest under the foregrip: sloppy groupings and shifty POIs. Pictures appreciated.
Umarex Please share your PRONE position shooting techniques for springers...
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I think proper is on elbows and shouldered. ( Skill)
Today it's more about crutches like several bags or pods or vices.. (remove any skill)
Regardless my poor ol body just aith limber or can bend around to to it anymore properly of crutched up ..lol
Today it's more about crutches like several bags or pods or vices.. (remove any skill)
Regardless my poor ol body just aith limber or can bend around to to it anymore properly of crutched up ..lol
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The same prone position as a rifle. Legs wide apart, elbows on the ground and head up until your spinal cord is tight and you see stars.
My guess is that your error in accuracy is the jump off the shoulder. The rifle butt is not in the pocket but on yout tendon and bone. Your arms only absorb it from the elbow up. You aren't controlling recoil.
Get your position right. Loose the front rest and hold the rifle. Put a buttpad on it.
My guess is that your error in accuracy is the jump off the shoulder. The rifle butt is not in the pocket but on yout tendon and bone. Your arms only absorb it from the elbow up. You aren't controlling recoil.
Get your position right. Loose the front rest and hold the rifle. Put a buttpad on it.
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I use a shooting sling and glove for kneeling and prone. The sling swivel is on the cocking lever just in front of the stock.. The HW 97 is only 12 ft lbs and seems to tolerate it. I do have to be aware of how tight the sling is adjusted, as it will pull the shots low. It is fairly consistant from shot to shot, but the amount of drop can change a couple moa do to form inconsistencies if I break position and try again. Not like the M1 Garand, where you cinch that thing down until you can barely get the buttstock in front of your shoulder.
I have long wanted to try split the sling and attach it to both sides of the forend and see how that works. See if just pulling on the wood is better than pulling on the end of the barrel.
I have long wanted to try split the sling and attach it to both sides of the forend and see how that works. See if just pulling on the wood is better than pulling on the end of the barrel.
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Agree with post #3
Which Umarex, scope and what caliber are you shooting? (there are some budget break barrels...that may disappoint you)
if you are looking for 1/2" accuracy at 25 yards, most Uramex may not deliver.
With springers not grouping, it's time to do a system by system trouble shoot. 1. check all your screws, 2. chrono 3. scope 4. pellet 5. position 6. trigger control etc.
But if you are absolutely sure it's your technique, the British guys shoot hunter field target prone. There are youtube videos of some very good springer shooters in the prone position.
Which Umarex, scope and what caliber are you shooting? (there are some budget break barrels...that may disappoint you)
if you are looking for 1/2" accuracy at 25 yards, most Uramex may not deliver.
With springers not grouping, it's time to do a system by system trouble shoot. 1. check all your screws, 2. chrono 3. scope 4. pellet 5. position 6. trigger control etc.
But if you are absolutely sure it's your technique, the British guys shoot hunter field target prone. There are youtube videos of some very good springer shooters in the prone position.
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Appreciate the replies. Yeah...I'm shooting a sub 200$ break barrel. Umarex Surge Max Elite .22. equipped with a Nikon Coyote Special 3X9X40 that has the front lens unscrewed to change parralax. I can get 1/2' groups at 20 yards benched (RWS SuperPoints), but I'd love to get the same prone.
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Do you guys have some kind of elbow pads on when shooting prone? I'm asking because just last week I shot prone out in the desert on hard-packed dirt with embedded gravel for the first time since forever and I was miserable. My buddy threw down a rubber mechanic's mat that mostly just kept us from getting dirty, but really didn't help with my elbows supporting most of my upper torso. How do you guys deal with this? DIY thing, like wrapping ace bandages around your elbow, or go to walmart and buy bicycle crash-protection elbow pads, or what? I kind of don't want to rely on a fancy mat to lay on since it's just my elbows that hurt.
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I'm assuming that's a typo?
1/2' = 6 inch
if it's 1/2" at 20 yards...that's a Troyer factor of 40 benched.
That's field target territory.
I would check out the British Hunter Field Target videos on youtube for technique issues. Be aware that the air rifles in most of these videos, are highly modified and most of them are under-levers.
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Take a look at the HFT shooters, like this Gary Chillingworth:
As I understand it, they have both the prone position and a springer class in competition. If anyone has figured out how to shoot a springer accurately from prone, it would be those guys.
You either get tough elbows or it hurts.
If it hurts you haven't practiced the position enough.
Silicone rubber elbow pads. Cheap ones. A thousand pellets. As the elbow pads wear through your elbows get tough. Don't wash them. The dead skin forms a protective layer.
Prone is tough. It sucks. Especially when you are old and your neck does not work anymore. You gotta really want to shoot that way to be proficient at it. The older you get the less you want it.
The rifle 30 degrees from your body. Legs wide. Neck arched back. Those chest muscles tight and the gravel in your elbows. If they bleed take some ibuprofen. You'll be fine. You'll have elbows like a mountain goat in 2-3 weeks.
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I do very little shooting from the prone and most of what I do is with old school powder burners. With springers, I've never found that slings or bipods aided shooting much and they both seem to change your point of impact. Also, when you're shooting prone it's very awkward to cock or load a springer.
What I practice a lot of instead is the field target sitting position or a modified version of it using only one knee for support.
What I practice a lot of instead is the field target sitting position or a modified version of it using only one knee for support.
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Thank you Bedrock Bob. That is, honestly, the best answer I could have hoped for -- even better than that, actually.
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