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The best thing for any shooter and scope is a permenantly mounted bubble level. Use a weighted string (plumb bob) aligned perfectly with the cross hairs and mount the level to the scope. Then level the scope to the barrel of that gun. The mirror method works well. The best way to ensure strait plum scope with the barrel is by shooting it at incremental yardages (with no scope or holdover adjustments, and with the same aiming bullseye point at all the yardages) to "see" if the pattern is truly vertical. If it angles or snakes, the scope need rotated slightly.
 
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Vicente_M_Costa said:
Hi all,
I would like to know your thoughts on this type of scope levelers...
Is it worth buying them?

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Optic Leveler Combo

The Optic Leveler is an inexpensive, easy-to-use tool for leveling scopes mounted in rings or one-piece mounts.
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I have one and never actually use it. It technically should get it right or close depending on your action. I use the plumb bob and mirror methods to make sure it is spot on.
 
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Airgun-hobbyist said:
The best thing for any shooter and scope is a permenantly mounted bubble level. Use a weighted string (plumb bob) aligned perfectly with the cross hairs and mount the level to the scope. Then level the scope to the barrel of that gun. The mirror method works well. The best way to ensure strait plum scope with the barrel is by shooting it at incremental yardages (with no scope or holdover adjustments, and with the same aiming bullseye point at all the yardages) to "see" if the pattern is truly vertical. If it angles or snakes, the scope need rotated slightly.
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Thank you Airgun-hobbyist and Smok3y, I've read about the mirror method and it doesn't seem too difficult to do but it's another thing to do it correctly -I'm completely new to this.
 
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Here's a step-by-step that I wrote up a few weeks ago.

How important is perfect level your scope to your gun?

I see people attaching bubble levels and whatnot on there guns and scopes trying to get perfect level. How would you know your gun is even level? Since most guns aren't flat on top how would attaching a level on the barrel you know its even level. So when I install my scope. I hold the gun to...
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The number of steps will initially make it seem more complicated than it actually is, but don't hesitate to ask questions if something isn't quite clear.
 
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I use a gun cradle vice and one of these with magnetic base
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nervoustrig said:
Here's a step-by-step that I wrote up a few weeks ago.

How important is perfect level your scope to your gun?

I see people attaching bubble levels and whatnot on there guns and scopes trying to get perfect level. How would you know your gun is even level? Since most guns aren't flat on top how would attaching a level on the barrel you know its even level. So when I install my scope. I hold the gun to...
www.airgunnation.com www.airgunnation.com

The number of steps will initially make it seem more complicated than it actually is, but don't hesitate to ask questions if something isn't quite clear.
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nervoustrig, thanks for your help (y)
 
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There are a handful, and only a handful, of scope manufacturers that guarantee that the bottom of the elevator assembly housing on the scope is perpendicular to the vertical crosshair. With those manufacturers (Nightforce is one) and a set like that linked, you can get it perfect. Without that guarantee, you're just hoping. There are some alignment sets which are punched rather than machined - those will only get you close at best.

GsT
 
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Vicente_M_Costa said:
Hi all,
I would like to know your thoughts on this type of scope levelers...
Is it worth buying them?

arisakadefense.com

Optic Leveler Combo

The Optic Leveler is an inexpensive, easy-to-use tool for leveling scopes mounted in rings or one-piece mounts.
arisakadefense.com arisakadefense.com
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You're going to get a lot of suggestions, and advice about scope mounting, and many of these suggestions can work. Can being the operative word. Whichever method you decide to go with, test the results. Before wasting money and effort of shooting all sorts of distances to see if it actually worked out for you; simply do a "tall target test". See if, when your rifle is level, that your scope tracks correctly. YT a video on Tall Target Test. PARAMOUNT Has a good one. Whichever method and tools you use. Take the time to verify. It will save you a lot of money, time, and aggravation. Best of luck.
 
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The easiest way is to shoot your apex which is usually around 25-36 yards....then shoot as close as your scope will allow. Let's say that's 10y. Zero the gun at the apex, then shoot on a vertical line at 10y. If you land on the vertical line at 10y...you're good. If you land to the right , then you will have to twist your scope in the rings to the left some and repeat your test.

Mike
 
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Yes, once you set it using the mirror method, then install the level on the scope tube using a plumb bob, then do the tall test for confirmation that it is in fact true. Need to do the tall test on a non-windy day, or indoor range, in order to do the verification though.

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GeneT said:
There are a handful, and only a handful, of scope manufacturers that guarantee that the bottom of the elevator assembly housing on the scope is perpendicular to the vertical crosshair. With those manufacturers (Nightforce is one) and a set like that linked, you can get it perfect. Without that guarantee, you're just hoping. There are some alignment sets which are punched rather than machined - those will only get you close at best.

GsT
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Thank you for your reply. How can I know which are the other manufacturers?
 
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DevilsLuck said:
You're going to get a lot of suggestions, and advice about scope mounting, and many of these suggestions can work. Can being the operative word. Whichever method you decide to go with, test the results. Before wasting money and effort of shooting all sorts of distances to see if it actually worked out for you; simply do a "tall target test". See if, when your rifle is level, that your scope tracks correctly. YT a video on Tall Target Test. PARAMOUNT Has a good one. Whichever method and tools you use. Take the time to verify. It will save you a lot of money, time, and aggravation. Best of luck.
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Thanks, I'll look for that video on YT.
 
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thomasair said:
The easiest way is to shoot your apex which is usually around 25-36 yards....then shoot as close as your scope will allow. Let's say that's 10y. Zero the gun at the apex, then shoot on a vertical line at 10y. If you land on the vertical line at 10y...you're good. If you land to the right , then you will have to twist your scope in the rings to the left some and repeat your test.

Mike
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Thank you for your reply.
 
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GeneT said:
Check the manufacturer's manual - if they say nothing, it's probably not guaranteed. If it is guaranteed, it's normally mentioned (in my limited experience).

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Thanks, I'll check the Element Optics manufacturer's manual to see if I can find anything about it.
20 minutes later... the manufacturer's manual for the Element Optics Titan 5-25x56 FFP says nothing about it :confused:
 
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