Hatsan New Hatsan at44 177 qe long for $138.00

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airgunutty

airgunutty

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I recently purchased a new Hatsan at44 177 long qe from PA for $138.00 tax and shipping costs included. I as of now don't have a pump so I am unable to see if I got a good deal or if I got a spectacular deal. It seems like everything is in order but I am as new to pcp air rifle as anyone can be. I didn't even know that there was such a thing out there. Sure I had bb guns when I was a kid but I didn't realize that the technology was at such a different level.
6 months ago I needed to get rid of some rats. So I got a M&P .177 co2. put a laser/ light on the rail and rats I did kill.
Then one day a friend handed me a marksman 0035 and asked if I could fix it. Never worked on any guns before so I said I would look into it and see if there was anything I could do. I turned to YouTube and found in time that I probably needed a new piston seal by the symptoms it displayed. Found out how to disassemble it on the cheap, cause I'm poor, built a vise to release the tension, got it apart,ordered a $12 seal from Amazon via Australia shipping more than seal for total of $26. Seal on,gun cleaned and inspected (but being a newb didn't know what to look for )gun silicon greased and put back together(pleasantly surprised ). Got a pellet from the small tin the owner had left with me(cheap daisys)loaded one in closed the barrel and CRACK. Well that made me smile.
Since then I have disassembled added shims to the spring guide and top hat. Added a good amount of silicon grease and put it back in working order(much more confident each reassemble). The only thing you hear when breaking the barrel is the click as the trigger catch is engaged,no more crunchy sound. Cheap scope 4x32 on it pellet loaded and I'll be dang it's a good little gun.Not pellet picky and shoots straight. What more could you want. Well the right thing to do is to get it back to the owner. Didn't want to though because I got attached to the increased power over my previous air gun experiences. What to do?
About a month goes by and for my birthday my friends get me a Gamo varmint 177 and know I think that I got it all. I spend my time learning about my new gun not willing to disassemble and void my warranty and finding out that overall it is a good gun.It has a pretty hard recoil but after learning about how to hold it properly and allowing the gun to do it's thing I'm getting pretty good at hitting what I'm aiming at.
So all of that leads me to here. I had become more and more interested in improving my shots but really just ended up going deeper and deeper down the air hole. I would watch videos of people shooting pcps and amazed by the silence.The complete lack of recoil. WOW. Then there was the price tag. Double WOW. Out of my price range. Sure there are a few crappy looking low end pcps but nothing that I was willing to gamble on. Then a couple of weeks ago I'm going through airgun sites looking at the nice things that I can't afford a I find Pyramid air and they are advertising 350% off a hatsan at44 177 qe long. I thought this is a scam for sure. So I researched PA and found them to be reputable. So I researched the gun and I found out so much about the Hatsan company,and the At44 platform. I found some negative and positive things about both but found much more positives overall. I really want it but I shouldn't get it because I really don't have the money to spare. But how often do you get a chance to own a brand new $500 pcp for a $138.00 with tax and delivery costs included,hmmm,not very often...... So I bought it and it is here now and I'm pretty excited to try it out.I'm anxious to know did I have a stroke of good luck or did get a project that I can't afford to make work. Hope to get a pump soon and find out.
Hope you found interest in this post and would love to hear about your experience with At44 long qe 177.
 
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Wow. That's an unexpected response. I'm in oklahoma and I'm truly thankful for the offer but I just couldn't except. I am learning that the air gunning community has some of the kindest members
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Please let me. It's not putting me out at all. I have several laying around that are just in the way. If it helps you feel better I'll sell it $10 shipped. Either way I'm more than happy to get it out of my way.
 
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It's been sitting on that shelf over 3 years. I'll test it and make sure it works but I need the shelf space more than the pump.
 
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Well after reading some posts I determined that my gun was built in October 2021 then shipped to the US where it sat for 3years, and I also found I should check the two seals on the barrel that sit on each side of the air port and sure enough they were in horrible condition. There's no way this gun would have worked properly had I not found this. The problem seems to be that where the barrel goes into the receiver is sharp and has sliced the edges of the seals. So now I have to try and see if that is the only seals with issues or have the others developed dryrot. Anybody familiar with how many seals there are for the at44 long.177 I'm familiar with the breech seal and looking at it without taking the cap off the barrel to inspect just looking in the barrel at it and it seems intact.

Any help and guidance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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airgunutty said:
So does it cause it to shoot too fast when the hammer is too strong? 4mm extra long .Thanks I was wondering what it would take to make adjustments when I am able to use mine.
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It uses more air... When the hammer spring tension is higher the hammer strikes the valve harder which opens the valve outlet wider and longer allowing a higher volume of air to blast through the transfer port, and yes, sending the projectile out faster..


I didn't have a 6" 4mm either, I have a 4". I ended up taking the gun body off of the stock and was able to make adjustments.

I had it set to shoot 13gr slugs at 960fps. That exhausted my air by 2.5 mags.

Anyway. I came here to let you new at44 owners know what I've learned in the lasy few days.

The Huma reg is absolutely worth it.
2. When putting the gun back into the stock PAY ATTENTION to how tight you fasten the screws. Too tight and it will mess with your barrel alignment. As the screws will pull the gas tube down and the stock will force it up... Eventually making contact with the barrel up front. So. Just hand tight is good enough. Enough tog et the stock and gun body feeling like a solid unit.
 
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Thank you for your detailed description. I am learning more each day. I am fortunate in that my gun being a newer model it has the hammer adjustment port and the hammer locking hole already drilled. I was thinking that you were saying that it would take a 6in.4mm from underneath the safety.

I checked out the huma regs. and they cost almost as much as my gun. I also looked into the hatsan H reg. it's under $50 but mixed reviews on its functionality. Of course I would need a chronograph to get a base line. So other things I need.
Funny how naive I was when ordering that bargain priced gun in thinking that I was somehow saving money.

Well from everyone who has commented on the at44,when I do eventually get this fence post of a gun shooting, that all of these obstacles will be worth while.

Thanks for taking the time to comment
 
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airgunutty said:
Thank you for your detailed description. I am learning more each day. I am fortunate in that my gun being a newer model it has the hammer adjustment port and the hammer locking hole already drilled. I was thinking that you were saying that it would take a 6in.4mm from underneath the safety.

I checked out the huma regs. and they cost almost as much as my gun. I also looked into the hatsan H reg. it's under $50 but mixed reviews on its functionality. Of course I would need a chronograph to get a base line. So other things I need.
Funny how naive I was when ordering that bargain priced gun in thinking that I was somehow saving money.

Well from everyone who has commented on the at44,when I do eventually get this fence post of a gun shooting, that all of these obstacles will be worth while.

Thanks for taking the time to comment
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The gun functions fine as is. Regulator isn't required. I've become spoiled by my other guns and now I "NEED" REGULATOR because God forbid if the spread isn't under 10fps... I've chronod 2 entire shot strings with the long unregulated. With enough HS tension to send 13gr slugs 965fps I got about 28-32 shots between 970 and 940 which is pretty good.. the poi really starts to shift after this. Due to constant large velocity drops for each successive shot.

With the gun set for 8/8.44gr pellets at 930fps MAx which is a whole lot LESS power I got 54shots before the velocity fell off of a cliff.

With the Huma reg set to 125 I'm shooting 10.34jsbs and 10.03 ko slugs at 916 and 924, getting 35 shots all within 3.5 over/under the average velocity they're set for. Then of course it falls off of a cliff. But the accuracy which was already good, became incredibly boring accurate.


And yes, under the safety you can use a 100mm/4" long mm if you remove it from the stock. Otherwise a long t handle is your best bet. I ordered one for 6.95 from Amazon easier done in stock.
 
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The gun functions fine as is. Regulator isn't required. I've become spoiled by my other guns and now I "NEED" REGULATOR because God forbid if the spread isn't under 10fps... I've chronod 2 entire shot strings with the long unregulated. With enough HS tension to send 13gr slugs 965fps I got about 28-32 shots between 970 and 940 which is pretty good.. the poi really starts to shift after this. Due to constant large velocity drops for each successive shot.

With the gun set for 8/8.44gr pellets at 930fps MAx which is a whole lot LESS power I got 54shots before the velocity fell off of a cliff.

With the Huma reg set to 125 I'm shooting 10.34jsbs and 10.03 ko slugs at 916 and 924, getting 35 shots all within 3.5 over/under the average velocity they're set for. Then of course it falls off of a cliff. But the accuracy which was already good, became incredibly boring accurate.


And yes, under the safety you can use a 100mm/4" long mm if you remove it from the stock. Otherwise a long t handle is your best bet. I ordered one for 6.95 from Amazon easier done in stock.
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I think that the biggest problem is my lack of patience. I need to focus on one process at a time. First get a pump and see what makes itself the next hurdle to take on. 👍

Again thank you for spending some of your time trying to help make my problems more manageable.
 
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