LPVO vs Prism

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IMO prisms are near perfect optics for PCP airguns, especially if your primary use is pesting at fairly predictable ranges. The relatively small amount of eye relief (esp. on the high magnification models) is fine, as there's essentially no recoil. You have a wide field of view, and a generous eyebox.

LPVOs are fine, but by and large you only ever use them at min and max magnification. The eyebox is often quite tight, so you spend extra time aligning your head. If more prisms came out with switch swappable magnifications, they could easily displace LPVOs entirely from the airgun market, IMO.
 
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Airgun-hobbyist said:
Just an FYI, the rings that come with the Discovery scopes are 'mediocre at best' so maybe look at ordering something else. Monstrum actually makes some decent Pro Series rings in the $35.00 range, available on Amazon.
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I will judge them when they arrive I suppose, but the Notos is mediocre at best also so as long as the rings aren’t trash, I think it’ll be just fine 😆
 
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delooper said:
IMO prisms are near perfect optics for PCP airguns, especially if your primary use is pesting at fairly predictable ranges. The relatively small amount of eye relief (esp. on the high magnification models) is fine, as there's essentially no recoil. You have a wide field of view, and a generous eyebox.

LPVOs are fine, but by and large you only ever use them at min and max magnification. The eyebox is often quite tight, so you spend extra time aligning your head. If more prisms came out with switch swappable magnifications, they could easily displace LPVOs entirely from the airgun market, IMO.
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Yeah I disagree, but whatever floats your boat.
 
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Lol, I been down this exact road and everyone here opinion is pretty much spot on. The main question is what are you doing with it. If it's pesting only 25yds and closer a red dot is the quickest. You can pull it out of the back pack and take a shot in a less than 3 seconds.
3x prism or red dot it gets a little blurry at closer ranges but you can see better and easier to put it on target. There is some eye relief to deal with.
Lpvo fixed Parallax but blurry at closer ranges.
3-12 great and longer ranges 50 plus yards. Great to practice and plink with in the backyard. It takes time to get on target. Range target, change Parallax, get your eye relief right, than pull the trigger.
There is no perfect all around!!! It's the best for your situation and what you use it for.
 
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Rey said:
Lol, I been down this exact road and everyone here opinion is pretty much spot on. The main question is what are you doing with it. If it's pesting only 25yds and closer a red dot is the quickest. You can pull it out of the back pack and take a shot in a less than 3 seconds.
3x prism or red dot it gets a little blurry at closer ranges but you can see better and easier to put it on target. There is some eye relief to deal with.
Lpvo fixed Parallax but blurry at closer ranges.
3-12 great and longer ranges 50 plus yards. Great to practice and plink with in the backyard. It takes time to get on target. Range target, change Parallax, get your eye relief right, than pull the trigger.
There is no perfect all around!!! It's the best for your situation and what you use it for.
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Yeah there seems to be a lot of bad information out there.

My primary targets are iguanas and paper. I like tinkering/plinking, but I also want to eliminate iguanas. If you know anything about iguanas there is no reason to get a shot off in 3 seconds. They rarely move during normal engagement. I care more about precision than speed.

The Discovery HD 2-12 that I chose is adjustable parallax down to 5 yards and is small and compact, much like the Notos it will be on. I agree MOST lpvo scopes I saw on Amazon were severely lacking features, but this new Discovery checks all the boxes. I have a red dot or 2 but the kill zone on an iguana is about the size of a nickle. I wouldn’t want to shoot a nickle at 25 yards with a red dot. I’m still interested in getting a prism at some point, but the Discovery seems to be just about perfect for my needs. Check it out if you haven’t https://www.discoveryopt.com/HD-2-12X24SFIR-Compact-FFP-Optics-Scope.html
 
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I still want to try a prism, but the little Discovery is really what I wanted, but only the Bugbuster existed in the low $$$ selection. My BB works just fine, but I never liked it…even less now.

Most of my scopes stay in the upper range of magnification so a 8x or 10x prism would likely also work well for me. But that’s a few spots down the acquisition list for now.
 
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I picked up the Discovery 2-12x24 ffp scope. The glass is great, will focus at any yardage and power you want. Turrets have good solid clicks for can feel and hear. I'm not crazy about the illumination so I don't use it. May change my mind on that once I shoot it in low light conditions. Came with picitinny rings, battery, cleaning cloth, sun shade and flip up covers.
 
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Mike_Lenardon said:
I picked up the Discovery 2-12x24 ffp scope. The glass is great, will focus at any yardage and power you want. Turrets have good solid clicks for can feel and hear. I'm not crazy about the illumination so I don't use it. May change my mind on that once I shoot it in low light conditions. Came with picitinny rings, battery, cleaning cloth, sun shade and flip up covers.
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How are the rings that it came with? I usually don’t care about illumination either as most of my shooting is in full light, but I also heard the illumination is only really noticeable at max magnification due to it being etched into the ffp glass. For me the illumination is just a bonus I probably won’t use.

But I’m happy to hear the scope performs as well as I had imagined. How long did it take to ship? I ordered straight from discoveryopt and I’m guessing 10-14 days. Seems like a great bang for the buck scope compared to other offerings below $200
 
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Floridaman2005 said:
My mind was not made up when I asked the question. Opinions and information was presented over the last 16 hours that brought me to my decision.
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I wouldn't disregard someone's experience based on 16hrs of "research". What he said wasn't wrong, even if it doesn't necessarily fit your situation.

If precision is the goal, you may be better off with a full size scope. Compact MVPOs can suffer from distortion and unforgiving eyebox, but then again, all depends on what you're shooting at and at what ranges. Hopefully your purchase works for you.
 
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muradtexas said:
I wouldn't disregard someone's experience based on 16hrs of "research". What he said wasn't wrong, even if it doesn't necessarily fit your situation.

If precision is the goal, you may be better off with a full size scope. Compact MVPOs can suffer from distortion and unforgiving eyebox, but then again, all depends on what you're shooting at and at what ranges. Hopefully your purchase works for you.
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Maybe you need to go back and reread what was said. I didn’t disregard anyone’s opinion. I disagreed with it, which is perfectly fine believe it or not. I don’t claim 16 hours of “research” makes me some sort of expert, but it did allow me to make up my mind, which again, is perfectly fine. I didn’t say he was wrong, I said I disagreed.

I have a full size scope and understand how scopes work and think the one I chose will be right for me. How ironic, right? Thanks a lot 👍
 
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MikeVV said:
Actual, holographic sights are nice...IF you understand them, and how to use them.

Prism scopes are also a great way to go. They are a cross between a red dot and a scope. No battery needed (actually). I have a few. I like the no battery requirement. And yeah, as for size...you can't...get a scope that small and light !!

At only 10 to 30 yards, you'll want a 1x or maybe 3x prism scope. And similar, you'll NEED a scope with an adjustable parallax (wheel on the left side) capability.

Mike
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yup. 10-30 yards a 1.2-4x lpvo is perfect
 
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I had a monstrum panzer which is a MPVO 1-10x24 FFP IR. It was amazing on my Huben GK1 but $200, so likely more than what you're looking to spend.

I've also used prisms, and they are very blocky and heavy, you'd have to drop some good amount of money for a decent one unless you go the monstrum route.

I have this 2-8x32IR SFP and it has amazing lenses clarity. I'm posting the thread only because it's easier than just searching for the pictures and typing everything about it, the link for the scope is in the thread.

Thread 'SFP 2-8x32IR Vector Veyron $130 + ship' https://www.airgunnation.com/threads/sfp-2-8x32ir-vector-veyron-130-ship.1326277/
 
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Floridaman2005 said:
Maybe you need to go back and reread what was said. I didn’t disregard anyone’s opinion. I disagreed with it, which is perfectly fine believe it or not. I don’t claim 16 hours of “research” makes me some sort of expert, but it did allow me to make up my mind, which again, is perfectly fine. I didn’t say he was wrong, I said I disagreed.

I have a full size scope and understand how scopes work and think the one I chose will be right for me. How ironic, right? Thanks a lot 👍
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Maybe you need to learn to talk to people. You come here asking for help, and when someone offers you theirs, you (having done all of 16 hrs of research), blow him off with "I disagree, but whatever floats your boat"? You know just because you made up your mind and placed an order doesn't make you much more qualified than you were 16 hrs ago, right?

P.S. I don't think you know what "irony" means.
 
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DEO09 said:
Prism scopes are not all created equal. A cheap prism might look better or worse than a cheap variable when you look through it, glass quality is still a thing. I think a TA11 ACOG visually looks better than every LPVO I've ever looked through at the same 3.5x, and I've had all the expensive ones.
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I did not understand how people get spoiled by glass until TA11. It's my go to on fighting/battle rifle. I do like Vortex Spitfire 3x (I have a Gen 1) as the budget option, it's on my Kozak FC, and it's a good optic for what I use it for. I only use a small LVPO on Leshiy, and that's because it's low profile and light (it's a 1" tube Leupold) and I don't use it any further than 40yds or so.
 
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muradtexas said:
Maybe you need to learn to talk to people. You come here asking for help, and when someone offers you theirs, you (having done all of 16 hrs of research), blow him off with "I disagree, but whatever floats your boat"? You know just because you made up your mind and placed an order doesn't make you much more qualified than you were 16 hrs ago, right?

P.S. I don't think you know what "irony" means.
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maybe you need to drop the ego and stop being offended over something that has nothing to do with you? I do disagree, and want him to do what he likes, and I will continue to do what I like. I am entitled to my opinion. I am free to make decisions right or wrong. There is absolutely no reason for you to say anything here at all. I can like something you don’t like. I can say I disagree and if you have a problem with that I don’t really know how to console you.

You can continue to insult my intelligence and say I don’t understand things, know what “irony” means, or not comprehend how I can make up my own mind in whatever time frame I deem appropriate. This is not an echo chamber and you don’t need to add any more negativity to this thread.

Have a great day.
 
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