The $2000 dollar gun.
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Yeah, I have (4) RAW HM1000x’s now, so that’s $7.5K+ on just the guns
.Because they’re a simple platform, I enjoy modding them as I please, making them the best they can be.
-> If I couldn’t get 1 MOA or better (25%/50% of the time) at 50/100 yards, I would consider my Time/$$$/Efforts wasted
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Been down this road a few times. My take is your priority should be a consistent and easy air supply, either tanks or compressor (preferably both). I've had expensive compressors and cheap ones, they are always the weak link since the cheap ones break and the expensive ones make you anxious. The best option for me was having several tanks and a good compressor along with a decent filling station 15m away.
Second, while the inexpensive scopes are a good value, once you use an expensive scope you'll be spoilt. It doesn't make good economic sense to pour lots of money into something that only gives you marginally better results but I still can tell. Athalons and Vortexs are good values but I really love the Nightforces I've had.
Third, I do not like to tinker so I've enjoyed traditional RAW 1000s from Martin and Daystate Wolverines. I like Foster refill valves otherwise the Daystate Huntsman would also fit in there. The Steyr and FX Impact I've had were painful to work on and always needed attention. The other FXs I've had were fine but I think they are way overrated and under built for what they are. I did have a synthetic short barrel FX Crown MkII that was an awesome gun though. I've bought and sold almost 100 different air rifles and pistols, high to low, which has made me a conservative traditionalist.
Finally, once you get it all together it does get a bit boring and repetitive to shoot so darn well everyday, entire magazines into ragged holes time after time. Honestly for a $2000 heirloom I'd get a high end tuned springer with a custom stock and classic (older) Leupold crosshair scope and shoot the heck out of it, create some patina and develop your skills.
Second, while the inexpensive scopes are a good value, once you use an expensive scope you'll be spoilt. It doesn't make good economic sense to pour lots of money into something that only gives you marginally better results but I still can tell. Athalons and Vortexs are good values but I really love the Nightforces I've had.
Third, I do not like to tinker so I've enjoyed traditional RAW 1000s from Martin and Daystate Wolverines. I like Foster refill valves otherwise the Daystate Huntsman would also fit in there. The Steyr and FX Impact I've had were painful to work on and always needed attention. The other FXs I've had were fine but I think they are way overrated and under built for what they are. I did have a synthetic short barrel FX Crown MkII that was an awesome gun though. I've bought and sold almost 100 different air rifles and pistols, high to low, which has made me a conservative traditionalist.
Finally, once you get it all together it does get a bit boring and repetitive to shoot so darn well everyday, entire magazines into ragged holes time after time. Honestly for a $2000 heirloom I'd get a high end tuned springer with a custom stock and classic (older) Leupold crosshair scope and shoot the heck out of it, create some patina and develop your skills.
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I like my FX Crown Mk2 in .25. Extremely accurate, tuning to 70ftlbs , with a 0.7 liter bottle on it.
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Ditto. I have the synthetic stock, and caliber change kits from .22 to .30.....Love this rifle
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That is nice looking black laminate Smok3y. I learned a lot here , and I will be looking for a US made Raw when the settlement comes in. Are the barrels replaceable on a Raw.?If you are still considering the RAW and don’t mind left side cocking (some like it for the bench) Utah Air still has a few for $1350.
RAW HM1000XLRT L/H Action Black Laminate .22 Airgun **OPEN BOX** - Utah Airguns
Included in this Airgun Package:utahairguns.com
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Well then. I'll buy a used Raw take it completely apart replace all seals , and put a new barrel on it. Can you caliber change a Raw? The Zelos barrel is fairly easy to remove with 2 set screws but I don't know if you can even get a spare barrel.?
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You can caliber change. There are some threads here about it somewhere. I have seen them in passing, but never needed them.
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Yes, very simple/straight forward on most versions of the HM1000x, however their latest RAW incarnation is more difficult.
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Don’t spend the 2000 because the upper priced air rifles are just not worth it. Get yourself a marauder or any sea air rifle .AEA they are the leader and error gun advancements. They make some beautiful air rifles. You should check them out. And get yourself a compressor with the extra cash you save. Or maybe get yourself two rifles and a compressor. They’re so-called top notch high money stuff doesn’t shoot any better
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I agree to some point , but there are some amazing things I have seen with the more expensive airguns. As I was scrolling through the classifieds I seen a airgun that had a standard deviation of 2. I think it had a second regulator.
Also I have seen my own Barra 1100 z's shoot dime size groups at 50 yards
Also I have seen my own Barra 1100 z's shoot dime size groups at 50 yards
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The vulcan is great, it's an amazing powerhouse, it's an amazing shooter, but unless you have the land or the space to shoot in an area where you're not gonna bother your neighbors. The gun is simply too loud, and i'm mostly referring to the 700mm versions because everybody chooses them for the amount of power they can make. They are also top heavy tall guns, with the compact weighing in at eight pounds and the long wayne, about 9lbs. With a scope, these guns are easily eleven pounds, not adding a bipod, mod, etc.
The compacts are amazing, had two compacts .30 and .177 both very accurate. The 177 does between 330 and 350 shots per fill at 19ish fpe or whatever 10.3 at 905 is.
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Interesting, you're the only person that's commented on the loudness. Every video I've seen people say it's quite that's including people with a decibel reader.
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have 3 impacts 1 taipan vet 2 tactical a Raw hm1000x and a Ghost hp that has been nothing but headaches from day 1.
brought the ghost back and tried a DRS AND DRS pro very nice very comfortable i ordered the Drs pro goodbye ghost.
brought the ghost back and tried a DRS AND DRS pro very nice very comfortable i ordered the Drs pro goodbye ghost.
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You need to go through every vulcan 3 post on this forum then cause I'm not the only one. Anyone who has said it's quiet on YT is likely comparing it directly to PB or big bores. You can certainly quiet the gun down with a moderator some, but it's not quiet, specially by your ear, the ping coming from that gun is by far the loudest out of any air rifle.
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yes the V3 is LOUD !!!
i owned 2 of them,
the ping was bad on the one i got from a friend. the one i bought new was not so bad.
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