Tuning Brocock Concept Xr trigger improvement

A friend asked me to see if I could improve the trigger on his recently acquired Concept XR. 

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Here is the disassembly video. I'm not a YouTuber, nor am I aspiring to be one. No fancy editing. It's just a simple video that can hopefully help someone. 



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfapAuWrvSA&t=4s



There are really three main areas that need polished to make the Concept's trigger feel much better, basically the three points of contact between the various trigger components. 

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The parts come with some machining marks in them, and I personally think those machining marks not smoothly sliding past each other is where some of "scratchy" feel comes from. Here's an example of the contact point right next to screw "D" before I did any polishing...

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Those machining lines can't be doing anything good towards a smooth trigger with a clean break, especially b/c they're parallel on each part, so they can nest inside each other to create a skipping/catchy sensation. 

Here's a photo about halfway through polishing them out....

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The bluing is leaving, as are the ridges. Eventually I arrived at a smooth surface on this and the other contact points. 

Since the previous owner had cut coils off all 3 springs in the trigger and the spring that controls the power wheel, Dan reached out to AOA and they came through big time. Not only did they have OEM replacements, but they mailed them to me all labeled up. Made the job much easier. 

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I used no power tools, just polishing stones to get the machining ridges gone, and then 500 and then 1200 grit wet/dry sandpaper for the polishing. No angles were changed, nor were large amounts of metal removed. 

Slight dabs of moly paste on each polished point. 

Slight dabs of grease in the bottom of the spring pockets (to aid in keeping the springs where they should be until all the parts were back together). 

Slight dabs of blue loktite on each of the trigger adjustment screws to hopefully make the trigger adjustments stay where they are. 

It's breaking at 13 or 14 ounces now, MUCH more crisp. The design doesn't allow for a couple ounce trigger, but can be made to feel MUCH better with a little attention and care. 








 
I just sent my Sniper XR overnight to your place, they should be knocking on your door any minute now lol! Thanks for the how to video, I may attempt that as sometimes I think I pull a shot as a result of the trigger. I see your video says part 1, will there be a part 2? Of course if I fix it, I will have one less excuse why I pulled the shot…

There WERE intentions of a part 2, which would have simply been reassembly (cuz watching sears get polished would be about like watching the proverbial paint dry).

I started the camera, got it all back together, and looked at the camera to see that the battery had died. On top of that, the couple of minutes it did record were blurry and wouldn't have been helpful to anyone.

And I wasn't willing to take it back apart just to be able to refilm the reassembly. 

For anyone considering it, it's a pretty straightforward job. If you can change your oil or a tire, you shouldn't have any trouble with this.

The big improvement I've seen on the two Brocock triggers I've done was in the predictability of the break. When it's catching and grabbing it is very hard to know when the pellet is going to fly. Smoothing up the parts as described above makes it more crisp (doesn't feel like it's fighting you to break). 
 
A friend asked me to see if I could improve the trigger on his recently acquired Concept XR.

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Here is the disassembly video. I'm not a YouTuber, nor am I aspiring to be one. No fancy editing. It's just a simple video that can hopefully help someone.






There are really three main areas that need polished to make the Concept's trigger feel much better, basically the three points of contact between the various trigger components.

View attachment 192008

The parts come with some machining marks in them, and I personally think those machining marks not smoothly sliding past each other is where some of "scratchy" feel comes from. Here's an example of the contact point right next to screw "D" before I did any polishing...

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Those machining lines can't be doing anything good towards a smooth trigger with a clean break, especially b/c they're parallel on each part, so they can nest inside each other to create a skipping/catchy sensation.

Here's a photo about halfway through polishing them out....

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The bluing is leaving, as are the ridges. Eventually I arrived at a smooth surface on this and the other contact points.

Since the previous owner had cut coils off all 3 springs in the trigger and the spring that controls the power wheel, Dan reached out to AOA and they came through big time. Not only did they have OEM replacements, but they mailed them to me all labeled up. Made the job much easier.

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I used no power tools, just polishing stones to get the machining ridges gone, and then 500 and then 1200 grit wet/dry sandpaper for the polishing. No angles were changed, nor were large amounts of metal removed.

Slight dabs of moly paste on each polished point.

Slight dabs of grease in the bottom of the spring pockets (to aid in keeping the springs where they should be until all the parts were back together).

Slight dabs of blue loktite on each of the trigger adjustment screws to hopefully make the trigger adjustments stay where they are.

It's breaking at 13 or 14 ounces now, MUCH more crisp. The design doesn't allow for a couple ounce trigger, but can be made to feel MUCH better with a little attention and care.
I just received my Atomic XR and need to adjust trigger to make 2nd stage LIGHTER. No instructions for ATOMIC in (pitiful) "manual". Nothing I could find online. Can someone help pls?
 
A friend asked me to see if I could improve the trigger on his recently acquired Concept XR.

View attachment 192007

Here is the disassembly video. I'm not a YouTuber, nor am I aspiring to be one. No fancy editing. It's just a simple video that can hopefully help someone.






There are really three main areas that need polished to make the Concept's trigger feel much better, basically the three points of contact between the various trigger components.

View attachment 192008

The parts come with some machining marks in them, and I personally think those machining marks not smoothly sliding past each other is where some of "scratchy" feel comes from. Here's an example of the contact point right next to screw "D" before I did any polishing...

View attachment 192013

Those machining lines can't be doing anything good towards a smooth trigger with a clean break, especially b/c they're parallel on each part, so they can nest inside each other to create a skipping/catchy sensation.

Here's a photo about halfway through polishing them out....

View attachment 192016

The bluing is leaving, as are the ridges. Eventually I arrived at a smooth surface on this and the other contact points.

Since the previous owner had cut coils off all 3 springs in the trigger and the spring that controls the power wheel, Dan reached out to AOA and they came through big time. Not only did they have OEM replacements, but they mailed them to me all labeled up. Made the job much easier.

View attachment 192028

I used no power tools, just polishing stones to get the machining ridges gone, and then 500 and then 1200 grit wet/dry sandpaper for the polishing. No angles were changed, nor were large amounts of metal removed.

Slight dabs of moly paste on each polished point.

Slight dabs of grease in the bottom of the spring pockets (to aid in keeping the springs where they should be until all the parts were back together).

Slight dabs of blue loktite on each of the trigger adjustment screws to hopefully make the trigger adjustments stay where they are.

It's breaking at 13 or 14 ounces now, MUCH more crisp. The design doesn't allow for a couple ounce trigger, but can be made to feel MUCH better with a little attention and care.
Thank you!
I have only one BRK XR gun but like it a lot. The polishing of trigger components should make it more refined. Your success has me convinced I should do the same.
 
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A friend asked me to see if I could improve the trigger on his recently acquired Concept XR.

View attachment 192007

Here is the disassembly video. I'm not a YouTuber, nor am I aspiring to be one. No fancy editing. It's just a simple video that can hopefully help someone.






There are really three main areas that need polished to make the Concept's trigger feel much better, basically the three points of contact between the various trigger components.

View attachment 192008

The parts come with some machining marks in them, and I personally think those machining marks not smoothly sliding past each other is where some of "scratchy" feel comes from. Here's an example of the contact point right next to screw "D" before I did any polishing...

View attachment 192013

Those machining lines can't be doing anything good towards a smooth trigger with a clean break, especially b/c they're parallel on each part, so they can nest inside each other to create a skipping/catchy sensation.

Here's a photo about halfway through polishing them out....

View attachment 192016

The bluing is leaving, as are the ridges. Eventually I arrived at a smooth surface on this and the other contact points.

Since the previous owner had cut coils off all 3 springs in the trigger and the spring that controls the power wheel, Dan reached out to AOA and they came through big time. Not only did they have OEM replacements, but they mailed them to me all labeled up. Made the job much easier.

View attachment 192028

I used no power tools, just polishing stones to get the machining ridges gone, and then 500 and then 1200 grit wet/dry sandpaper for the polishing. No angles were changed, nor were large amounts of metal removed.

Slight dabs of moly paste on each polished point.

Slight dabs of grease in the bottom of the spring pockets (to aid in keeping the springs where they should be until all the parts were back together).

Slight dabs of blue loktite on each of the trigger adjustment screws to hopefully make the trigger adjustments stay where they are.

It's breaking at 13 or 14 ounces now, MUCH more crisp. The design doesn't allow for a couple ounce trigger, but can be made to feel MUCH better with a little attention and care.
Thanks SO much for this excellent post!
 
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Thanks a lot for the pics and info. I did see your video and sorry someone messed up the gun. Your pics helped a great deal. The arrow pointing at the top rear sear I can't tell if you are referencing the top of first step, the side of the first step or even the top of second step. Since this engages inside the gun it is not possible to see the engaging contact points.

Something I noticed on my new Sahara Sniper XR is the trigger is sensitive to the torque put on the bolt holding the action in the stock. If I barely tightened it to 11lbs and the 2nd stage adjustment barely engaged the trigger would hold at 13/14oz. If I tightened it down to a nice firm 20lbs the trigger was 1lb 10oz. This was not comfortable for me as a "trigger fix" and was bound to have POI start wandering slightly and overall consistency would not be stable. Might even be dangerous if knocked around real good.

After I did the trigger job and polished the contact points adding a dab of moly I could put 20lbs on the action/stock screw and the gun was totally stable at 10 to 12 pounds pull with a confident adjusted to over 1/4 turn past the engagement point. I could take the stock on and off with same results every time at the same bolt torque. If I backed off the action bolt to like 13 to 15 pounds there was no desernable difference. If I backed all the way off to 11lbs which is barey putting any pressure on it the pull would be 9 to 12 ounces so it is still lightly sensitive to torque pressure. The first stage is a rock solid wall so very crisp.

Once again thanks for a great job and I am happy with 10/12 ounces on a new gun with maybe 200 rounds in it. The gun should come down a little more over time. Unfortunately this is the only mid/higher end PCP which needed this level of trigger work like a frigging handgun. I agree with others there is no reason for this when the owner "Daystate" is sending out match triggers at 9oz and adjustable higher and lower all day long with their entire product line. It can't be a safety issue.
 
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