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Should I be worried about the balanced valve with this gun? My guns spend most of their lives as a standby suburban varmint rifles waiting for the next pest to shoot. As such, the first shot accuracy is very important to me as sometimes, one shot is all I get for days or even weeks. With my guns, I tune them for this and I'm happy if the first shot velocity is within 10 FPS of what it normally shoots.

I'm not willing to dry fire before taking a shot as this is a deal breaker for me, but is it really the only sure way of getting an accurate shot with a balanced valve?
 
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My M-Rod Superlight with JSAR balanced valve will have a low first shot velocity if it has not been used in a while. Once I cycle it a couple of times the low velocity issue is gone for the day. But if I let the rifle sit for several days or so then it needs to be cycled. I can deal with that but if every magazine has a first shot low velocity or if the rifle sits for a few minutes (vs hours or days) and then needs to be cycled then that is a no go for a hunting rifle.
 
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MushroomPsyche said:
Should I be worried about the balanced valve with this gun? My guns spend most of their lives as a standby suburban varmint rifles waiting for the next pest to shoot. As such, the first shot accuracy is very important to me as sometimes, one shot is all I get for days or even weeks. With my guns, I tune them for this and I'm happy if the first shot velocity is within 10 FPS of what it normally shoots.

I'm not willing to dry fire before taking a shot as this is a deal breaker for me, but is it really the only sure way of getting an accurate shot with a balanced valve?
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Although i have no idea... it would seem simple enough to cycle your action once or twice before leaving the house or barn or wherever. The Blackwolf does have a very good shot count, esp with a proper reg/hammer setting and the larger calibers have a big plenum.
 
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cavedweller said:
Although i have no idea... it would seem simple enough to cycle your action once or twice before leaving the house or barn or wherever. The Blackwolf does have a very good shot count, esp with a proper reg/hammer setting and the larger calibers have a big plenum.
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It is not that simple. If a rifle is kept at near ready, it could sit for several days between need. If I were to have to cycle the rifle before taking my shot, that just would not do for opportunistic pesting. The rifle that sits at my door at ready is not regulated nor balanced for that reason.

What is the shot counts for a .25 and .30 with a tube? I do not see that on the website, maybe I missed it?
 
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3Crows said:
It is not that simple. If a rifle is kept at near ready, it could sit for several days between need. If I were to have to cycle the rifle before taking my shot, that just would not do for opportunistic pesting. The rifle that sits at my door at ready is not regulated nor balanced for that reason.

What is the shot counts for a .25 and .30 with a tube? I do not see that on the website, maybe I missed it?
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I have no info on the larger calibers esp with the tube.
 
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Franklink said:

VERY Ghosty in the hammer spring area.
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This just in:
Regarding the Blackwolf Ring height selection or choice issue.
It would seem that the Bell housing size on the scope is also a big factor in choosing a ring height.
AOA advises using a high or adjustable set of rings if you have a scope like the Sightron S3 with the 60 mm bell housing.
That said, both scope height to clear the magazine and size of scopes bell housing, will play a big factor in choosing the right set of rings.
 
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Blackwolf is a different animal. Transfer ports are significantly different
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A little more information on the Blackwolf regarding set up and tune if you are wanting to use the Blackwolf for HFT or WFTF

#1) AOA recommends getting the low power transfer port.

#2) Setting the Reg, at around 120-130 bar you will see speeds between 885-925 fps using 10 gr pellets when adjusting from min to max on the power wheel.

Higher reg pressures will get a larger FPS spread from power wheel as in = min to max FPS but fewer shots.
Expect at around 90 bar on reg you will 815 fps with 10 gr.

You may even be able to go lower on the reg, maybe around 60-70 and potentially get down below 12 FPE if you shoot WFTF but they (AOA) were not certain.

When buying a Blackwolf with the LP port, AOA will include The HP port with the gun so you could swap them out if you want to shoot heavier stuff or go up to 35ft-lbs.

Hope this saves someone time if they are ordering a Blackwolf for WFTF or HFT.

Edit: this is for the .177 with a 17" barrel.
 
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cavedweller said:
A little more information on the Blackwolf regarding set up and tune if you are wanting to use the Blackwolf for HFT or WFTF

#1) AOA recommends getting the low power transfer port.

#2) Setting the Reg, at around 120-130 bar you will see speeds between 885-925 fps using 10 gr pellets when adjusting from min to max on the power wheel.

Higher reg pressures will get a larger FPS spread from power wheel as in = min to max FPS but fewer shots.
Expect at around 90 bar on reg you will 815 fps with 10 gr.

You may even be able to go lower on the reg, maybe around 60-70 and potentially get down below 12 FPE if you shoot WFTF but they (AOA) were not certain.

When buying a Blackwolf with the LP port, AOA will include The HP port with the gun so you could swap them out if you want to shoot heavier stuff or go up to 35ft-lbs.

Hope this saves someone time if they are ordering a Blackwolf for WFTF or HFT.
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Super helpful info, thanks!
 
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cavedweller said:
A little more information on the Blackwolf regarding set up and tune if you are wanting to use the Blackwolf for HFT or WFTF

#1) AOA recommends getting the low power transfer port.

#2) Setting the Reg, at around 120-130 bar you will see speeds between 885-925 fps using 10 gr pellets when adjusting from min to max on the power wheel.

Higher reg pressures will get a larger FPS spread from power wheel as in = min to max FPS but fewer shots.
Expect at around 90 bar on reg you will 815 fps with 10 gr.

You may even be able to go lower on the reg, maybe around 60-70 and potentially get down below 12 FPE if you shoot WFTF but they (AOA) were not certain.

When buying a Blackwolf with the LP port, AOA will include The HP port with the gun so you could swap them out if you want to shoot heavier stuff or go up to 35ft-lbs.

Hope this saves someone time if they are ordering a Blackwolf for WFTF or HFT.
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I’m a little surprised to hear this as another fella has a 22 cal 23” barrel and he’s getting the same velocity at the same setting as my ghost and with the 23” -177 in the ghost hp im shooting 13 jsb at 810 with 100 bar and the lightest kit hammer spring.
 
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Solo1 said:
I’m a little surprised to hear this as another fella has a 22 cal 23” barrel and he’s getting the same velocity at the same setting as my ghost and with the 23” -177 in the ghost hp im shooting 13 jsb at 810 with 100 bar and the lightest kit hammer spring.
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This was on a 17" barrel
 
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