LCS CLOSED THE COMPANY DOES ANYONE KNOW

If I remember correctly Airguns of Arizona launched their version of the SK19 through their brand Western Airguns while they were still selling LCS. So I'm calling BS on the excuse that "they couldn't get parts".

PK
I wonder what REALLY went on in the background with the LCS Air Arms / Western Airguns / Airguns of Arizona saga.
• Information thieving?
• Back stabbing?
• Technology stealing?
• Patent stealing?
• Probably all of the above, and then some?
I don’t know if Airguns of Arizona actually has anything to do with Western Airguns copies of the LCS SK-19 (ownership wise or influence wise) other than retailing their products, but one thing I’m sure about is that they definitely had everything to do with sinking and bankruptcying LCS Air Arms. Weather LCS had it coming is another story (What goes around, comes around)(Karma).
 
Possibly one of the best and most vague comments I've read on AGN. I agree 100% - the LCS is defintely an airgun that was ever made.

Would I buy on over a Huben K1, no.
I agree, that comment was “extremely” vague !!!.

I have both, I love both and they’re both nice to shoot, they both have their pros and cons.
For hunting I choose the Huben K1 because it seems a little lighter and because it doesn’t have the big bottle it feels more comfortable to me.
The SK-19 definitely gives me a higher shot count.
They are both very accurate.
My SK-19 has a choked barrel and is less pellet pickie.
My Huben K1 is a 2023 model with a Chinese barrel that is NOT choked and is more pellet picky.
The Huben K1 is better with slugs.
They are both easy enough to degas for airline travel.
 
Talk to Newman Buck over at Cape Fear Airguns. He has a few at the shop and I'm sure he can set you up with a trouble free gun at a great price.
I’m sorry to tell you brother, but there’s no such thing as “trouble free gun”.
I own 37 spring air guns (spring piston and gas piston combined) and 6 high end PCP airguns, I have been lucky with most of them, but I guarantee you that there’s no such thing as “trouble free”, not in the “real” world anyway, specifically with PCPs, too many orings, springs and valves just waiting to wear out and fail.
 
I agree with @Mau , and it is especially true with these complex semi-automatics . . .

I have a Huben K1 and it has been an incredible gun. I have had a few issues with it over the years, but repairs have been easy with help from Kelly at Krazcool airguns - he supports us with lots of advice and videos of repairs, and provides great part support. Since the Huben has a full parts diagram and ready parts availability for every single part on the gun, keeping them running long term is pretty much guaranteed. I've put more than 20K rounds through my Huben. I have spares on hand for most things that could go wrong with it, so I am self sufficient on it.

I also have a Sidewinder, and even though it probably has less than 2K rounds through it, it has had issues that I needed AoA's help to repair. That help (and the parts) were available from them so I was able to get it back up and running. But there is no parts diagram and no ability to figure much out (no teardown videos either, at least that I can find). So I am at AoA's mercy on keeping the Sidewinder running long term - if they change their mind I (and other owners) will be SOL . . .

I would not buy an LCS at this point, given that it has no support. I feel bad for owners that have them as they will become pretty paper weights if they run into any significant issues with them as there is no parts diagram or parts support . . . .
 
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I just looked that the lcs sk19 it looks like a rebadged Umarex Zelos with a large tank on the bottom. The Zelos is A LOT less expensive. I have a factory refurbished unit with case and ammo for $492 with free shipping. Even if you modded the Zelos you're in well under $750

HK
Not even close to being comparable . . . the LCS is a select fire air gun, meaning it can be used either in semi-automatic or fully automatic firing mode. So if one wishes, it can shoot the full magazine in a few seconds with one pull of the trigger. Also discussed in this post are the Rattler and Sidewinder that are the same, and Huben that is strictly semi-automatic, but can still empty a mag in a few seconds with rapid short trigger pulls.

The Zelos is a manual cocking repeater. There are other differences, but that is the real defining one . . . .