Daystate ֍ Huntsman Revere —vs.— ֍ Wolverine R
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I have the Revere which I am ekstremly pleased with. It does a healthy 23 ft/ibs with 22grain slugs in .177.
I have been in the marked for a long time I have considered a W2 HP which officially does 30 ft/ibs. However to invest an additionally $$$ to get 7 more ft/ibs..naaa not really. However if the W2HP could be modified to +40 ft/ibs then I would be interested. The Daystate RW with Heliboard2 can deliver the power I want for further reach. I am a mechanical guy. I would take a Pontiac 79 T/A over a new Tesla. at anytime....
I have been in the marked for a long time I have considered a W2 HP which officially does 30 ft/ibs. However to invest an additionally $$$ to get 7 more ft/ibs..naaa not really. However if the W2HP could be modified to +40 ft/ibs then I would be interested. The Daystate RW with Heliboard2 can deliver the power I want for further reach. I am a mechanical guy. I would take a Pontiac 79 T/A over a new Tesla. at anytime....
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The problem with comparing a Red Wolf to anything else is that it applies full bottle pressure to the projectile, but in a contolled way. An unregulated airgun does this also but when you throw a regulator in it, you're restricting the pressure and flow in most cases. That's where the plenum becomes important. There are versions of the Wolverine that aren't regulated but I've not seen anyone put a 177 barrel on them. The regulated versions have a small plenum... same as the Revere, and are not really intended for monster power. They really shine where they're intended to be, though.
I've had best luck with heavy 177 slugs in the Red Wolf over anything else, including the Delta for the above reason. It takes pl 12 on the Heliboard and full fill to get 1000 fps with the 20 gn NSA's. Zan's may be a little easier as they're softer, but I've not tried them yet. I've let my testing lapse on the 20 gn NSA's but REALLY wanted to find the solution for the leading and have not yet. In the small window after seasoning the barrel before leading builds up, I've shot the smallest groups I've ever shot with ANYTHING at 100 yds, even my bolt 223 with Berger bullets... about a pencil sized hole. I've even shot pretty small things at about 300 yds with them... they just need a SERIOUS airgun to push them.
Back to the OP, I've only owned a Wolverine, of the two in question, but have repaired a couple of Regals/Revere's. The Revere's are beautiful, no question, and handle well, but I like the weight and ergos of the Wolverine more. So does my wife. I find the Revere similar to the Tarantula... looks nice and feels great in the hands but has a limited application window so isn't the best for our shooting preferences.
My $0.02...
Bob
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I know the older RW shot very well with slugs but with the new ART "barrelstuff" its my impression when reading reviews it doesn`t do as good. I wouldn`t mind spend $3K on an airgun that can shoot slugs like lazer, but its a lot money if it ends up as a pelletshooter. (I have that one).
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As far as I know, the 177 HP is still a 1 in 17 twist polygonal bore. The new 28" may be different but I don't have one. Soren may check in with more info as he has the ltest offering.
My particular one does well with all the weights in both choked and unchoked poly's that I have for it. Note that the 20 gn NSA's need to be PUSHED for them to do well in mine... 975 fps is where I try to be with them and that's pl 11 on my Heliboard. I suspect from trying the twist calculator that 1 in 17 is marginal but they're stable and accurate for a LONG ways when pushed.
My particular one does well with all the weights in both choked and unchoked poly's that I have for it. Note that the 20 gn NSA's need to be PUSHED for them to do well in mine... 975 fps is where I try to be with them and that's pl 11 on my Heliboard. I suspect from trying the twist calculator that 1 in 17 is marginal but they're stable and accurate for a LONG ways when pushed.
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I own both and wouldn't want to be without either. They both have their place and work great. No complaints on either. If you are hunting I would go with the revere because of the size. If targets is your thing I would go wolverine for shot count.
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I just bought a Wolverine R (non HP) in .177. Daystate's website specs indicates that this gun gets 160 shots per fill. I get 60 before it starts falling off. What is your experience? I get more shots (90) from my Revere.
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I’ve owned a couple of both huntsman's and wolverines my take is that the huntsman’s have a much gentler shot cycle and ergonomically shoulder better because of weight. The wolverines are hammers, and weigh a bit more but both platforms lack an adjustable cheek piece unless you get a safari huntsman or something like the wolverine sapphire - me - I prefer an adjustable cheek rest.֍ Huntsman Revere —vs.— ֍ Wolverine R
Just recently I stumbled onto another thread that continued to give me the impression that the
Daystate Huntsman Revere
was somehow magic.
So, how does the Huntsman COMPARE to the Wolverine R?
Please, enlighten me!
Matthias
then there is the fill probe - I don’t like them so in this regard I prefer the wolverine bottle form
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Is it the bottle or cylinder Wolverine R .177 (non-HP)?
If bottle, no way does 60 shots on the reg of .177 sound right…
Picture borrowed from earlier in this thread showing both bottle and cylinder versions of Wolverine R…
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I tried posting this earlier. But my post got mingled with another post.
Odd. I have a Huntsman non reg 177 and a wolverine R 177 Both are very comparable in accuracy. The Wolverine gets a lot of shots. I had a hard time making it thru a FT corse without filling the Huntsman. I can shoot the Wolverine more accurate offhand due to the thicker stock. My elbow can rest on my lower chest / belly. It is heavier, longer, but gets a lot more shots. I wouldn't want to carry it far in the field. The huntsman is a good shooter and is lighter. Both great guns. Each has a purpose where they outdo each other.
Odd. I have a Huntsman non reg 177 and a wolverine R 177 Both are very comparable in accuracy. The Wolverine gets a lot of shots. I had a hard time making it thru a FT corse without filling the Huntsman. I can shoot the Wolverine more accurate offhand due to the thicker stock. My elbow can rest on my lower chest / belly. It is heavier, longer, but gets a lot more shots. I wouldn't want to carry it far in the field. The huntsman is a good shooter and is lighter. Both great guns. Each has a purpose where they outdo each other.
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