Anyone own one of the replica air/handguns like Glock, Sig, Beretta, ETC? any suggestions for a decent quality model that shoots fairly well and accurate out to say 15 yards.
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I have many,I get the fully functional metal replicas, and most of them are made in Korea, some are German, and the Japanese ones are hard to get; The "gas" ones I have are good.
My replicas are like the real "thing", same weight, size, and function....cost about $120 on up, and some of the .45 you can customize to your liking.
What happened was I sold all my real ones and missed them so much I then got the exact replicas of "some" of them....
My replicas are like the real "thing", same weight, size, and function....cost about $120 on up, and some of the .45 you can customize to your liking.
What happened was I sold all my real ones and missed them so much I then got the exact replicas of "some" of them....
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I have a Sig p226 CO2 looks real, even has blowback. It's ok for messing around with cans and stuff at close range (10yds) and under. Not bad for a cheap pistol, not sure about the FPS but when the cartridge gets low it just dents the aluminum cans lol.
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I really enjoy replica airguns, usually more than the real thing, so I've got quite a few.
I've got Glock Gen4 and Gen5. The Gen4 is much more realistic in terms of trigger pull and function. It even field strips much like the real thing. The Gen5 fires pellets and is more accurate and more powerful, but has an atrocious trigger that really can't be made any better than bad. It's also not as realistic in terms of function.
I've got a Barra Schofield in .22 and it's pretty good, but I think the Dan Wesson replicas are better.
The Barra 400e is perhaps the best BB gun made. I've shot all of the BB guns I consider accurate off a bench and it's the most accurate of any I have shot. It's not the most realistic replica, but it's the best BB gun overall IMO. Very expensive though.
The new Crosman M1 Carbine is also an excellent BB gun considering the price, which is very reasonable. It's also very accurate for a BB gun with very good sights and it has full auto and is very efficient with the CO2. It's not particularly realistic, but considering everything else I'd highly recommend it. Dollar for dollar I'd rate it above the Barra.
The Umarex MP40 is excellent and a lot of fun to shoot. It's both very realistic and very accurate for a BB gun. This is my #3 pick overall.
The Umarex M1 Carbine is extremely realistic and more accurate than the Crosman, but it's a CO2 hog and uses expensive 15 round magazines. If you're into Larping or something then get the Umarex. If you just like plinking and having fun, get the Crosman.
The Crosman MPW is very realistic, but accuracy is marginal and magazines are pricey. Kids will think it's awesome though.
My Springfield Armory M1A has been a turd and I really wanted to love this gun. It's a full size wood and metal rifle that looks and feels very close to the real thing and is quite powerful for a replica, rated at 800 fps in .22. It has good iron sights and is quite affordable. Mine has been a super twangy, minute of can rifle at 20 yards however and I've yet to find a way to make it shoot accurately.
I've got Glock Gen4 and Gen5. The Gen4 is much more realistic in terms of trigger pull and function. It even field strips much like the real thing. The Gen5 fires pellets and is more accurate and more powerful, but has an atrocious trigger that really can't be made any better than bad. It's also not as realistic in terms of function.
I've got a Barra Schofield in .22 and it's pretty good, but I think the Dan Wesson replicas are better.
The Barra 400e is perhaps the best BB gun made. I've shot all of the BB guns I consider accurate off a bench and it's the most accurate of any I have shot. It's not the most realistic replica, but it's the best BB gun overall IMO. Very expensive though.
The new Crosman M1 Carbine is also an excellent BB gun considering the price, which is very reasonable. It's also very accurate for a BB gun with very good sights and it has full auto and is very efficient with the CO2. It's not particularly realistic, but considering everything else I'd highly recommend it. Dollar for dollar I'd rate it above the Barra.
The Umarex MP40 is excellent and a lot of fun to shoot. It's both very realistic and very accurate for a BB gun. This is my #3 pick overall.
The Umarex M1 Carbine is extremely realistic and more accurate than the Crosman, but it's a CO2 hog and uses expensive 15 round magazines. If you're into Larping or something then get the Umarex. If you just like plinking and having fun, get the Crosman.
The Crosman MPW is very realistic, but accuracy is marginal and magazines are pricey. Kids will think it's awesome though.
My Springfield Armory M1A has been a turd and I really wanted to love this gun. It's a full size wood and metal rifle that looks and feels very close to the real thing and is quite powerful for a replica, rated at 800 fps in .22. It has good iron sights and is quite affordable. Mine has been a super twangy, minute of can rifle at 20 yards however and I've yet to find a way to make it shoot accurately.
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I had a BB gun as a kid 9-10 years old, was a M1 and the barrel jacked in and out to cock the gun, it had a bb reservoir, you turned it upside down to load a bb in the chamber. It was fairly accurate as I remember?...for a 9yr old. I killed a few birds with it, so it had a little power. Wish I could find another like it.
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Those are pretty collectible these days and you’ll probably end up paying $150+ for one. I never saw one until I was in my 20’s, so I don’t have the same nostalgia for them that a lot of people do. To me, they’re just another BB gun like the Red Ryder, but better looking. Still, Red Ryder type performance is what you can expect out of one. The new Crosmans are CO2 powered and shoot at 400+ fps and mine is pretty accurate.
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Well I have 3 of the Umarex Legends co2 BB guns; the MP40, Thompson M1A1 and the M3A1 Grease gun. I can hit targets at 16-20 yards. it is a stretch but it does work. I fell in love with the auto firing replica guns and never looked back. Between all three of them, maybe 10,000 plus BBs thru them. I also fitted full wood stocks and greps on the Thompson M1A1 (love it). I also have several replica Pistols P38, Luger, Cowboy pistol, Webley pistol and others.
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As an avid shooter and collector of both revolvers and WWII handguns I think I've picked up most of the replicas at gun shows over the years and held them. I've yet to see one that couldn't be spotted as a replica from several feet away and when you pick them up there is nothing similar in the feel to the genuine weapons. For shooting cans at a few feet they may be fine but I couldn't imagine them ever being more than a novelty.
I shoot almost everyday and it was one of the reasons I was looking at adding a quality PCP rifle to reduce my ammunition burden which is costing as much as $100 a day in retirement. While I don't shoot all my guns due to age and value of many of them I still have one Luger, one High Power, one P38, one VIS and several 1911s that I shoot on a regular basis.
I've owned and shot this 1916 DWM since the early 70s and still get a charge out of shooting it. It still shoots excellent and has a good bore for a weapon that is 109 years old and served in WWI and was captured in WWII. It is all matching except the magazine, it has a WWII Haenel Schmeisser 8 round magazine.
I shoot almost everyday and it was one of the reasons I was looking at adding a quality PCP rifle to reduce my ammunition burden which is costing as much as $100 a day in retirement. While I don't shoot all my guns due to age and value of many of them I still have one Luger, one High Power, one P38, one VIS and several 1911s that I shoot on a regular basis.
I've owned and shot this 1916 DWM since the early 70s and still get a charge out of shooting it. It still shoots excellent and has a good bore for a weapon that is 109 years old and served in WWI and was captured in WWII. It is all matching except the magazine, it has a WWII Haenel Schmeisser 8 round magazine.
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"I was looking at adding a quality PCP rifle to reduce my ammunition burden which is costing as much as $100 a day in retirement."
I agree that this is one reason that I fell in love with my replica guns. The cost of an actual M1A1 Thompson sub machine gun in ok condition (it works lots of wear) is about $40,000 dollars; .45 ACP ammunition is around $54 for a box (50). The M1A1 Thompson rate of fire is 600 - 900 rpm. That is a few seconds of shooting for 50 rounds. It was a simple solution to buy the replica(s) all under $225.00, and no hassle with regulatory agencies, and the ammo is dirt cheap (BBs and Co2 cartages).
The big plus is one does not have to go to a private range to shoot them. A Big back yard is fine not NEAR the noise of actual weapons fire.
I do have friands that do own automatic (M1A1, M3A1 Grease Gun among others). Last year I spent over $1560 dollars on .45 ACP and $215.00 9mm at their range (Private). Add in air fair, rent a car expenses having a good time (etc.) . So Way More Expensive than BBs and C02.
Although I did freak out at the plastic furniture on the Umarex (BB-Co2) M1A1 Thompson, every time I picked it up I heard this plastic ticking sound... drove me nuts the cheap sound of plastic on my favorite replica BB gun;..! So; I replaced it with all wood furniture; now I am very happy! It is posted on this Airgun site somewhere.
"I was looking at adding a quality PCP rifle to reduce my ammunition burden which is costing as much as $100 a day in retirement."
I agree that this is one reason that I fell in love with my replica guns. The cost of an actual M1A1 Thompson sub machine gun in ok condition (it works lots of wear) is about $40,000 dollars; .45 ACP ammunition is around $54 for a box (50). The M1A1 Thompson rate of fire is 600 - 900 rpm. That is a few seconds of shooting for 50 rounds. It was a simple solution to buy the replica(s) all under $225.00, and no hassle with regulatory agencies, and the ammo is dirt cheap (BBs and Co2 cartages).
The big plus is one does not have to go to a private range to shoot them. A Big back yard is fine not NEAR the noise of actual weapons fire.
I do have friands that do own automatic (M1A1, M3A1 Grease Gun among others). Last year I spent over $1560 dollars on .45 ACP and $215.00 9mm at their range (Private). Add in air fair, rent a car expenses having a good time (etc.) . So Way More Expensive than BBs and C02.
Although I did freak out at the plastic furniture on the Umarex (BB-Co2) M1A1 Thompson, every time I picked it up I heard this plastic ticking sound... drove me nuts the cheap sound of plastic on my favorite replica BB gun;..! So; I replaced it with all wood furniture; now I am very happy! It is posted on this Airgun site somewhere.
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My crosman m1 had some parts (semi) failures rather rapidly resulting in a loss of semi auto or bolt hold open after a shot at all. About 1000 shots judging by co2 use. I had about 35 minutes of fun with it over 1 week.
The bolt carrier, has a sear face with a tiny piece of steel cast in, the corner radiused. The bolt has another catch face, radiused. The sear had uneven faces and a mold seam that was causing uneven contact resulting in wear and slippage.
A little diamond stone seems to have it straightened, but i need to test.
Crosmans customer service line is a nightmare. I went from #9 to #8 in 3 hours on hold. No email responses yet.
It's a great, fun gun that can easily be made to last with a little better qc or minor parts blueprinting.
The bolt carrier, has a sear face with a tiny piece of steel cast in, the corner radiused. The bolt has another catch face, radiused. The sear had uneven faces and a mold seam that was causing uneven contact resulting in wear and slippage.
A little diamond stone seems to have it straightened, but i need to test.
Crosmans customer service line is a nightmare. I went from #9 to #8 in 3 hours on hold. No email responses yet.
It's a great, fun gun that can easily be made to last with a little better qc or minor parts blueprinting.
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I looked at the Crossman M!, the look is not accurate; (no clip) and plastic furniture. I also did not like that there was no way to put real wood on the BB gun. I am still waiting for "Somebody; anybody" to make a M1A1 paratrooper with banana clip and folding stock. I decided not to buy the Crossman M1.
I have come across the whole "white metal against steel scenario, my M1A1 Thompson had the same issue, a little filing and it was a easy fix. I also have shot about 10K of BBs out of it; I have a box full of the empty C02 cartages to prove it.
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Didn't see this mentioned b4, HW75 SSP on par with an IZH 46m and other 10 meter pistols , looks like a .45 auto pb.
I just bought one and find it hard to shoot other guns , at least this first week of owning .
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It's close but not exact. The rof isn't realistic either
the plastic kind of works if you can set aside the fact that bakelite wasn't a thing. At its price point, it's amazing if it doesn't have issues. For a smooth bore it's more accurate than it has any business being for bbs. It looks like I made progress with it today and it ran semi auto again. Upvote 0
I recently stuck a toe in to these waters, purchased a Umarex SA10 mostly based on reviews.
Yuck, the accuracy was meh, that would be OK if I could count on it feeding and firing each time, it liked to skip a pellet or two.
I gave it a chance and messed with it a bit, nope back it went to Pyramyd.
Yuck, the accuracy was meh, that would be OK if I could count on it feeding and firing each time, it liked to skip a pellet or two.
I gave it a chance and messed with it a bit, nope back it went to Pyramyd.
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I decided to look at the pictures (finally had some free time Easter and all) and this is standard "white metal" wear. As you know "white metal" is NOT steel it is composed of
This is standard white metal alloy usually made up of antimony, tin, lead, cadmium, bismuth, and zinc. This alloy is used in toys, trinkets, awards medals and "replica guns. It is now prolific in air guns, including BB//pellet and C02 BB guns. The cheaper the air/pellet or C02 guns are the faster it will wear. I have found that the simple judicious filing will fix the problem.
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Magnum Research Desert Eagle .177 cal. Super accurate gun.
Unfortunately not made anymore...second hand market only.
Unfortunately not made anymore...second hand market only.
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Some filing/diamond stone and some careful consideration of grease points seems to have it running for now. Some of it seems like pot metal, the main body looks to be aluminum (I can't confirm this). The fire control group has more parts than select fire firearms groups I've seen. They're all white metal as you called it.
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