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The JSB Knockout slugs 25.39gr either 216 or 217 put my bone stock Notos to 580~600 fps without adjusting anything. Stick with heavier pellets for lower fps.

Avenge-X should be a good replacement to your airforce condor, easy to tune and will shoot over 1050 fps with 14.3 pellet, you can dial it down to lower 900 as needed, it's a powerful rifle for $500. If you want something more compact and a bit less fps for half the cost, then go with the...

so, what kind of FPS gain do you get after spending $150 on Huben regulator and another $100 for a bottle? close to 900 FPS with CPHP 14.3gr and triple the total shot count? The upgrade is the price of a second new Notos. lol

I don't have any spare Moderators, looks like going for the bigger .30 moderator might be the way to go for broader coverage that should work with everything below it, just not sure if bigger bore moderator would affect the .25 and .22 accuracy. The .25 without moderator is not quiet enough to...

Wow, sounds like a very versatile gun and easy enough to swap out the barrel and adjust the setting on the fly. Is it relatively quiet with the .25? I imagine with .22 it is even quieter? Was looking at the .25 M4 in copper theme with theh standard 600mm barrel, seems like it's sold out...

How do you like the M4 so far? worth it and living up to the hype? 😁

If you'll be shooting well below 50 yard, add Umarex Notos to your list, super compact and you'll get 18~20FPE right out of the box, plenty of power for those birds and squirrels, the money you saved you can buy a decent compressor or scope, or more pellets. If you intend to shoot up to 100...

With a small moderator, the Avenge-X is a bit over 4ft long, better suited for the bench, it's quite clumsy. It absolutely dwarfed the Notos. :ROFLMAO:😂

The Notos is an econo-gun, agile, compact, light, small footprint, and super approachable price point....it's the Honda Civic and Ford Focus in the airgun world. 😁😆 Other than getting higher capacity magazines and quieter moderator insert to make it whisper quiet, i really don't see the point...

basically just saw off the stock moderator tube then drill the holes for the TS moderator insert? nice!! lol I pest in less than 15 yard so the red dot sight works okay so far, no problem getting dime size grouping at ~8 yard shooting offhand but I do have a spare 3-9x40 Hawke scope laying...

I'll take both of them, PM.

Been having a lot of fun with the Notos, it's so compact, light and agile, it's what I reach out for to shoot offhand in the backyard plinking and pesting. I ran it through the chrono yesterday to see how many shots I could get per refill, was using CPHP and I'm pretty happy with the result...

Thanks much brother. Still unable to get in touch with Tango Sierra to buy his magazines, wonder why he doesn't put it up on classified section or on ebay. I'm tempted to get the 15 rounds mag from Maple instead.

Out of curiosity, i see a lot of people buying the Zelos to upgrade to bottle, why not go straight for the M60B that came with bottle instead? Is there something that the Zelos do better than the M60B? 😅

The OEM mag is picky, 1 out of 7 CPHP would jam. lol

How much is the moderator inserts? I would love to buy one for my new Notos please. Hope Tango Sierra would see this message, i would like to buy two to three magazines from him as well ;)

don't have a 3D printer unfortunately. I ordered two 10shot magazines from Maple, not sure they're any good, saw someone posted there's 12 shots version available that is made in USA, would love to buy a few more from local but can't find any link to it.

Do you guys have a link to buy these 12 shots magazines? prefer to support made in USA.....haha. unable to find it in classified section.

Hi folks, new to the forum, been learning a lot here. Just received my Umarex Notos and liking it so far, i'm looking for a moderator insert to replace the stock one, what is the quietest one and where can i buy one? Few days ago i think i saw someone mentioned the Subscriber Design from...