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    Looking for inexpensive scopes and range finders

    Hi zerochance. I'm finding that I'm probably not the best person to be looking for a lightweight hunting scope. I'm not a hunter. Your typical 60-yard range is about what my minimum range would be since I'm shooting still targets and I'm always trying to hit at farther and farther distances...
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    Looking for inexpensive scopes and range finders

    Just be glad scopes don't come in Gradians too. This is a great time to be buying a scope with it being holiday sale season. I'll look around for reliable FFP milradian scopes within your $300 budget. I know you're trying to keep the weight down and that you're generally not shooting farther...
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    Looking for inexpensive scopes and range finders

    I was trying to be neutral about mil vs moa, but you got me -- I totally agree with you on all counts. Since zerochance is the OP and is, obviously, looking for a first(ish) good scope, I also recommend that learning to use a milradian scope first and then sticking with it makes perfect sense...
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    Looking for inexpensive scopes and range finders

    Yeah, that's the one! I hope you ordered spare batteries. It's a very battery-efficient unit, but you'll probably go through a couple of batteries and range a thousand things as fast as you can just playing with your new toy -- I mean measuring device. stovepipe
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    Looking for inexpensive scopes and range finders

    Hi zerochance. It was only about 4 years ago that I was where you are now with watching these kinds of videos. They all talk about how many inches or centimeters different angles represent at different distances. My FFP scope has angle markings on the reticle. It is a measuring device. It...
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    Looking for inexpensive scopes and range finders

    I don't want to turn this thread into an MOA vs Milrad thing, but there is one thing I prefer about milrad scopes. With a milrad scope, when I see that I need to adjust my scope by some number of milrads, the number of clicks on the turret is simple to know. For example: 0.7 mil = 7 clicks 1.2...
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    Looking for inexpensive scopes and range finders

    Regarding milrad and moa angular measurements, I don't have a preference. I can use either unit of measure. When I'm looking at a scope that I might want to buy, I look at the reticle and imagine myself trying to quickly find and then hold an angle on target. If the layout of the reticle...
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    Looking for inexpensive scopes and range finders

    The least expensive FFP scope that Athlon makes is the Athlon Talos BTR Gen2 4-14x44. Different reticles are available in milrad and moa. Prices are about $280 - $320. I'm not suggesting that you only look at Athlon. Think of other companies that make reliable scopes and look at their least...
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    Looking for inexpensive scopes and range finders

    It seems to me that you should be able to get a first focal plane scope in that $300 ish budget that is of reasonable quality. Even though you're not expecting to shoot more than 60 yards, that's still far enough to want angular markings on your reticle that are correct at any magnification...
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    Looking for inexpensive scopes and range finders

    Are you using break-barrel (springer) rifles? They have a nasty double recoil that kills scopes dead unless the scope is intentionally designed to handle it. EDIT: Nevermind my question -- I see (from other thread) that you are using a Zelos (pcp, not breakbarrel). stovepipe
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    Looking for inexpensive scopes and range finders

    OK, so let's start at the top. Your first post says you hunt small game with air rifles. So what range(s)? For some guys small game is ground squirrels at 200 yards. For others it's tree squirrels at no more than 50 yards. For other guys it's a large gammit -- like anything from 20 yards to...
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    Looking for inexpensive scopes and range finders

    Good move on the range finder. The battery that comes pre-installed is a cheap one, of course. It takes CR2 lithium 3-volt batteries. Any quality will work, but make sure to get low self-discharge batteries. I think the range finder was an easy decision especially at the price. Once you...
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    Looking for inexpensive scopes and range finders

    Seriously, I wouldn't wait too long -- I've seen it at this $129 price before over the years, but it doesn't last long and goes back up to $250. Also, see my edit to the above post for accuracy in feet with 0.5 foot resolution. stovepipe
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    Looking for inexpensive scopes and range finders

    Close range accuracy with the prime 1800 is some fraction of a foot, exactly like the broadhead. In setup mode you set it to measure in feet by skipping yards and meters and then you see neither a Y or an M -- you don't see an F either but it's measuring in feet -- actually some fraction of...
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    Looking for inexpensive scopes and range finders

    The Bushnell Prime 1800 (model LP1800AD) is a much better buy currently at Scheels for half price $129.99 (usually about $250 but the price varies)...
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    N/A How to determine FPS

    Absolutely keep a log of your tuning parameters -- projectile used, plenum pressure, hammer spring compression, hammer weight if you use different ones for different tunes, hammer spring used if you use different springs for different tunes, average muzzle velocity, standard deviation of muzzle...
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    N/A How to determine FPS

    Hi Plinkalot. I understand your question. When you are new to all of this and you suddenly have a pcp rifle that allows you to change the plenum pressure and how hard the valve is getting hit by the hammer and can also use lots of different weights of pellets and slugs and can also use barrels...
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    Can someone explain digital and optical zoom?

    From what I can tell about the zulus hd 5-20x, there is NO mention of optical zoom anywhere. It appears to be a 1080p camera that is zero optical zoom and 5-20 digital zoom. That's it. With cameras (still or video), normally they would say something like "20x (12x optical)" for example. This...
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    What is a good budget friendly chronograph?

    I was going to try that once, but I was afraid the barrel wouldn't stay lined up with the chrony -- or maybe I was afraid it would slip loose. Either way, I'm going to try the zip tie method today. Using tape is a bit of a pain. Thanks for the idea. Here's a bit of trivia: white zip ties...
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    FX Fx maverick vp

    That's a good move using the micrometer from Phil rather than the crappy FX power wheel. I could write a 20-page essay on the reasons to make that switch. Keep in mind that Phil's demo videos are only intended to show the precision and repeatability of the micrometer. The way he uses it in...