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Take a t look at the Daisy model 35 too. I'm a Crosman fan, but the 35 is a lot of gun for the money. I don't care for the BB magazine on the chinese crosman pump rifles and I like the sights better on the 35. Now of course, the 1377 would be my first choice in general, but for a kid learning to...

Thanks for the reply...I guess that is true for ANY of the crosman 14.3 pellets? Also, do either of your 1322's use the stock 10" barrel and if not, what length are you using? I would love to have a 600FPS+ 1322 with either 10 or 12" barrel...I can get 600FPS on my stock 2289g with 18-20...

Wasn't sure if this goes under pistols, rifles, pellets or what so I'm putting it here. I'm someone who wanted to believe that a heavy 177 fired from a stock 1377 might have the same or better penetration as the slower moving 22 pellet from a 1322 or 2289. However, in some recent testing using...