0db Moderator

[coolsound]

Hi all,

I just ordered the 0db 160S .30 moderator from AOA. It will go on my incoming Benjamin Gunnar .25 riffle. Please let me know if there is anything I need to watch out for with this moderator. Thanks.

 

[bdzjlz]

I like them a lot. Enjoy.

 

[elwoodblues]

Watch out for how quiet your gun is you'll think its broken

 

[PumaCarl]

Tried the 110 and the 160 recently for the first time, on a .22 BRK, and they are impressive. The 110 does an amazing job for its size and barely gives up anything to the bigger 160. In my opinion the size difference beats out the small difference in noise reduction, which for the 160 is just noticably quieter. For a .30, I am sure you did right going for the 160, enjoy!

 

[Spartan]

I'm sure you'll enjoy it, hassle free. I've bought and tested more moderators than I would care to admit. Big name production and some of the lesser known "niche" offerings that tout a lot of science in their designs. Received a 0db 110c free with a Daystate I had purchased last year. It takes the cake across the board in both sound reduction (relative to size) and shot consistency. Across all airguns I've put it on. It noticeably outperforms mods that are 25-30% larger in volume when it comes to sound reduction. Not sure what their secret sauce is, but I dig it. My entire fleet of daily drivers is now topped with a 0db.

 

[TN_Yankee]

I'm considering getting a BRK Sniper XR .25 soon (non-magnum). I don't need it to be whisper-quiet, but quieter is certainly better. OTOH, I'd rather not put a 160 on it if a 110 does almost as well (especially for less money). I realize "almost" is a subjective term, but... opinions?

 

[grackleblast]

The Brocock (BRK) sniper rifles have a baffled shroud so I would think that the 110 would get the job done . I have been using one on my Sniper HR in .22 and it is very quiet.

 

[wgd]

The way things are going with Moderators. It’s not gonna be long before we buy guns with Moderators and throw away the guns.

 

[SAZ]

Well, after all the glowing recommendations I ordered a 0db-110 from AOA this week (they were on sale for $129) and it arrived yesterday.
I thought that being a smaller size it might do well on either of my pistols. Not so much.

Took the TKO mod off and installed the 0db-110 on my Crosman 1720T sub 12 fpe FT pistol. Nope. 5 shots with each. 0db Way louder. Back on with the TKO.

Well, surely my Crosman 1701P at a whopping 4-5 fpe won't overpower this thing?
Took the TKO mod off of it also and installed the 0db-110. 5 shots with each mod. Are you kidding me? Nope. Back on with the TKO.

Just for fun, let's try this on the MAC1, sub 20 fpe FT rifle since we're striking out with the pistols.
Shot 5 shots with the MAC1's Neal Clague moderator, then installed the 0db 110 (which in the 110's defense, is quite a bit smaller). Didn't expect much here.
5 more shots with the 110. Oh, hell no. Back on with Neal's moderator.

Back in the box with the 0db-110.
I guess I probably should have ordered the (on sale $199) 0db-160 moderator which from the pictures appears to be quite a bit larger and maybe I'd have had better results?

I'm glad a lot of you are having success with this one, but it's just not working for me and my ears. Sound is subjective to each of us I understand that.
Your ears mileage may vary...........

 

[Franklink]

Well, after all the glowing recommendations I ordered a 0db-110 from AOA this week (they were on sale for $129) and it arrived yesterday.
I thought that being a smaller size it might do well on either of my pistols. Not so much.

Took the TKO mod off and installed the 0db-110 on my Crosman 1720T sub 12 fpe FT pistol. Nope. 5 shots with each. 0db Way louder. Back on with the TKO.

Well, surely my Crosman 1701P at a whopping 4-5 fpe won't overpower this thing?
Took the TKO mod off of it also and installed the 0db-110. 5 shots with each mod. Are you kidding me? Nope. Back on with the TKO.

Just for fun, let's try this on the MAC1, sub 20 fpe FT rifle since we're striking out with the pistols.
Shot 5 shots with the MAC1's Neal Clague moderator, then installed the 0db 110 (which in the 110's defense, is quite a bit smaller). Didn't expect much here.
5 more shots with the 110. Oh, hell no. Back on with Neal's moderator.

Back in the box with the 0db-110.
I guess I probably should have ordered the (on sale $199) 0db-160 moderator which from the pictures appears to be quite a bit larger and maybe I'd have had better results?

I'm glad a lot of you are having success with this one, but it's just not working for me and my ears. Sound is subjective to each of us I understand that.
Your ears mileage may vary...........

I agree, the 0DB 110 is just not very effective as a standalone moderator. Where I've find it works best is as an add-on to a shroud, preferably a shroud that has some baffles or an internal air stripper of some sort.

I've stuck my 110 on the end of a Veteran shroud, the end of a Red Wolf shroud, and the end of a Ghost shroud and been pleased with the overall report from a relatively high powered airgun, but again, as a standalone moderator, it's typically not enough.

 

[John "spysir" Blount]

TKO makes pretty good stuff. Much tighter clearance tolerances. Amazing units for the size and price! Not sure if you still can (requiring a phone call & wait) still get cal. specific but you did notice a difference if using a .177 or a .22 when shooting the .177.


John

 

[SAZ]

John,
I did talk to Mike at TKO a couple times before placing the order. Shipped real quick and I was / am happy. Definitely would order from him again.
Hard to explain, but they reduce the "crack" barrel report down to more like a low toned "whump".
Like I said....it's hard to put into words, but both mods work very well.

I believe the two moderators I purchased are .177 specific, but checking with Mike could confirm.
Here's a couple pictures of them on the pistols:

1720T : You remove the barrel end cap and the moderator has an internal male thread that uses the shroud female threads for attachment.
1701P : Slides on quite a way and has 1 grub screw on each side of the moderator to secure it. But fits pretty securely without the grub screws.

 

[SAZ]

Well, I thought I should update this with some good news since my initial experience wasn't favorable.

I have found something that the 0db actually works pretty well on. For my needs anyway; YMMV.
It's just as quiet and it's a smaller than the Donny FL Sumo that works equally as well on here.

 

[DoubleM]

I have a zero DB on my Kalibrgun 25 cal and am very happy with it. The pellet striking the target makes more noise to me.

 

[MSR Workshop]

Anyone used the 0db Magnum on a .30 cal?
I’ve been looking at this one and have found next to no info on it or how affective it is.

 

[Twiceshy]

What recommendation would you all make for a .177 break barrel ruger/umarex Blackhawk ?

 

[PumaCarl]

I love quiet, but I honestly think the little gain you might get is not worth the investment. Most of the noise is action noise and it will still be there. It would cost less to get a Notos with a hand pump.

 

[Twiceshy]

I love quiet, but I honestly think the little gain you might get is not worth the investment. Most of the noise is action noise and it will still be there. It would cost less to get a Notos with a hand pump.

Thank you for your reply , I have been told the action noise will drop down with use .

 

[PumaCarl]

Thank you for your reply , I have been told the action noise will drop down with use .

I've never heard that one before. Actually, with a lot of use, you will have to change the piston seal and re-grease the spring and you're back where you were. I have owned Feinwerkbau, HW, Crossman, Benjamin, and I have never had one get quieter. That just doesn't happen. Tuners use to put a kind of tar on the spring that could really quiet one up, but the sound went up from application time, not down. The good guns are pretty quiet already, especially if they are a sub-12fpe gun. Anyway, if you are set on getting a mod for yours a long slip-on style would be the way to go. Too expensive to do anything else. A good price for getting your barrel threaded is around $150 and then you'd still have to purchase a mod, so now you are at the same, or more, than the original price of the gun. Honestly, hand your gun to somebody else to shoot and walk 25y away and listen. It sounds a lot less to what you are shooting at, then what you hear while shooting it. In the long run, if you are a springer guy, get a shrouded British or German airgun, but don't throw your money away trying to make your gun something it isn't. Just trying to save you from learning the hard way, like the rest of us, but do what makes you happy, and good luck.

 

[Twiceshy]

I've never heard that one before. Actually, with a lot of use, you will have to change the piston seal and re-grease the spring and you're back where you were. I have owned Feinwerkbau, HW, Crossman, Benjamin, and I have never had one get quieter. That just doesn't happen. Tuners use to put a kind of tar on the spring that could really quiet one up, but the sound went up from application time, not down. The good guns are pretty quiet already, especially if they are a sub-12fpe gun. Anyway, if you are set on getting a mod for yours a long slip-on style would be the way to go. Too expensive to do anything else. A good price for getting your barrel threaded is around $150 and then you'd still have to purchase a mod, so now you are at the same, or more, than the original price of the gun. Honestly, hand your gun to somebody else to shoot and walk 25y away and listen. It sounds a lot less to what you are shooting at, then what you hear while shooting it. In the long run, if you are a springer guy, get a shrouded British or German airgun, but don't throw your money away trying to make your gun something it isn't. Just trying to save you from learning the hard way, like the rest of us, but do what makes you happy, and good luck

Thank you for the very informative reply . Sounds like very good advise . I will start by having someone else shoot it . I mainly use it to control backyard pests , but fear drawing the negative attention of neighbors . Especially nowadays , anything that sounds like gunfire tends to start a panic .