Oh, I completely agree. My point was that you can't let them get under your skin. If you've been civil, and honest, then being blocked only means that you triggered the insecurities of a troll. Not that it matters, or should, but you "won". He/she did not post to inform, they posted to looking (only) for confirmation and/or approval. You broke that. (And good for you - we should all welcome information that does not match our experiences. Your experience, for one, makes me wonder if I just suck at shooting heavy springers - I certainly won't deny that that's a possibility. Folks that just shut you off aren't worthy of further discussion...I don't have a problem that you hate a Gamo Magnum, even if I don't agree with you, you have your reasons. The thing is that you and I can have a conversation about it and disagree in a civilised way. That is what this forum is about for me. There are rifles I don't like as well for reasons of my own. I am not going to block you because of that, the way that guy did it. Like I said, the fact that he couldn't have a proper conversation, was lying about some some details and only want the conversation his way and then blocked me when asked about that, indicates to me that he is not truthful and not worth having a conversation with anyway. I expect people to be truthful even though I know many are not, then I will point it out, the reason for this post. If members cannot be honest on this forum, then what is going to happen with things like the 30 yard challenge and things like that. Then I can print a stack of targets, go and sit right in front of it and point the barrel to it and "shoot" the perfect score. Not that there are a price to be won, but that whole challenge and fun of it all is about honesty.
Sample of ONE?? That would be pretty short sighted and unfair to form an opinion based on THAT. Lemons can manifest with any brand, it happens. Re the Gamo rifles, if you can find one, I suggest you get your hands on a Hunter Extreme Pro .22 cal, and I can practically guarantee you will change your opinion. Beautiful beechwood stocks, VERY accurate with the right pellet (mine likes JSB 15.89's), comes equipped with a decent suppressor, 27+ to 30 ft lbs energy (depends on the pellet of course) in a BREAK BARREL rifle for Pete's sake! So what's NOT to like? OK, maybe the triggers are a little heavy out of the box. But with a small amount of tuning, the triggers can be easily tuned to around 2+ lbs or so. I would NOT want it any lighter for hunting anyway. I picked mine up (when they were available direct from Gamo) for around $250, that is a serious airgunning value. I have not seen a single negative post on these rifles, they are THAT good. If there are any negatives I would like to see/hear about it. In case I didn't mention it previously---Yes, I DO like my Gamo Hunter Extreme ProI hate Gamo magnums, but that's based on a sample of one, with one shooter. If you've got a one-holer you either got a better gun, or you're a better shooter. I wouldn't dispute either. The internet is full of people that have to be right, and you need to develop some thick skin, because there isn't any gun you can buy that someone won't bash. Get your satisfaction from your shooting, not from the approbation of strangers on the internet, some of whom are likely gun-less trolls living in their mother's basement.
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HIlarious. My one sample *is* a Hunter Extreme Pro. And yes, the reason I mentioned a sample of one is precisely because it's unfair and not necessarily representative. OTOH, if you get a dud, are you going to rush out and buy another one? Yeah, me neither. If I had three Gamos that I liked before buying the HEP, I'd have probably chalked it up to bad luck, but like I said, sample of one. But my real point was why should you, or the OP, or anyone else who likes Gamo magnums give a rat's patoot what *I* think? I can still discuss it without insisting that anyone with a differing opinion is an idiot which I think was the OP's real gripe.Sample of ONE?? That would be pretty short sighted and unfair to form an opinion based on THAT. Lemons can manifest with any brand, it happens. Re the Gamo rifles, if you can find one, I suggest you get your hands on a Hunter Extreme Pro .22 cal, and I can practically guarantee you will change your opinion. Beautiful beechwood stocks, VERY accurate with the right pellet (mine likes JSB 15.89's), comes equipped with a decent suppressor, 27+ to 30 ft lbs energy (depends on the pellet of course) in a BREAK BARREL rifle for Pete's sake! So what's NOT to like? OK, maybe the triggers are a little heavy out of the box. But with a small amount of tuning, the triggers can be easily tuned to around 2+ lbs or so. I would NOT want it any lighter for hunting anyway. I picked mine up (when they were available direct from Gamo) for around $250, that is a serious airgunning value. I have not seen a single negative post on these rifles, they are THAT good. If there are any negatives I would like to see/hear about it. In case I didn't mention it previously---Yes, I DO like my Gamo Hunter Extreme Pro![]()
Gene---it's a FIVE YEAR FACTORY WARRANTY on that rifle. What was wrong with it??? I'm NOT saying you're an idiot, but WHY, if it WAS a dud, didn't you just send it back to Gamo? They would have probably just sent you out a new one. And the new one would have probably been checked over with a fine-toothed comb before being sent out to you, to avoid any repeat of the problem(s) you experienced with the original. I'm just curious is all...HIlarious. My one sample *is* a Hunter Extreme Pro. And yes, the reason I mentioned a sample of one is precisely because it's unfair and not necessarily representative. OTOH, if you get a dud, are you going to rush out and buy another one? Yeah, me neither. If I had three Gamos that I liked before buying the HEP, I'd have probably chalked it up to bad luck, but like I said, sample of one. But my real point was why should you, or the OP, or anyone else who likes Gamo magnums give a rat's patoot what *I* think? I can still discuss it without insisting that anyone with a differing opinion is an idiot which I think was the OP's real gripe.
GsT
Diana, AA and HW have all just decided to move on from springers and continue with just their legacy products, but there are several other companies out there that are still innovating. Cometa, Hatsan, Norica and Crosman all come to mind. Unfortunately, along with Gamo, they all target the budget oriented end of the market. There's nothing wrong with that and I'm glad the lower priced guns are out there, but I miss the days when there were companies like Theoben and Webley making new models of high end rifles as well.As far as I'm concerned Gamo is the only spring / gas ram gun company still pushing innovation all the other companies just make the old guns they've been making for the last 15-30 years . And then they'll add new stocks and act like they made a new rifle. I do wish Gamo would try to make a more high end gun. But as far as hunting goes I'll take my gamo over any of my other springers. They're lighter and pushing 30+ foot pound of energy .
I have two of the hunter extreme pro's and one of them is pellet on pellet at 30 yards the other one is like 3/4'' groups at same distance. The thing about mass produce springers is you have to check the barrels for consistency, And another thing about gamo their Gas Rams seem to last forever. The Leopold scope cost more than the rifle though LOL
I'm beginning to believe that the whole "airguns eating scopes" thing is mostly a relic of the past. I've had a number of spring guns over the years and a few "super-magnums". I have fired literally 10's of thousands of shots through them and the number of scopes I've had that have crapped out on me has been about 3 and that's over a 3 decade long period. Maybe I've just been incredibly lucky, but I'm guessing that once scope manufacturers became aware of the issue they began building scopes that were capable of handling springer recoil.I have a Hawke Airmax 2-7x32 AO on the Gamo since new. Many people told me that I was going to replace scopes regularly because scopes don't last on "magnum" break barrels of any make. I can tell you this, the Hawke is still working like new, holding it's zero 100%. The glass is not high end Swarovski by a long shot, but it is good, even in low light.
I can't speak for Gene, but myself I really hate shipping things back and forth for repairs. I'd probably reluctantly do it if I had a Daystate, but for a sub $300 gun I'll just try my own hand at it or live with the disappointment.Gene---it's a FIVE YEAR FACTORY WARRANTY on that rifle. What was wrong with it??? I'm NOT saying you're an idiot, but WHY, if it WAS a dud, didn't you just send it back to Gamo? They would have probably just sent you out a new one. And the new one would have probably been checked over with a fine-toothed comb before being sent out to you, to avoid any repeat of the problem(s) you experienced with the original. I'm just curious is all...I can't find a single thing, now that the SAT trigger is tuned to my liking, to criticize with mine. Well, I did remove the front sight to give my hand a better purchase on the moderator to aid in cocking the rifle. But then again, I shoot scope only with this rifle, so the sight being gone is of no consequence to me.