.177 FX Dreamline Classic - an FT alternative?

Early this year I bought a new .177 FX Dreamline Classic in Walnut with a 500mm STX Superior (Super Lite) barrel. I only really bought it because Joe @viperjoe had it for such a good deal (under $1000) that I wanted to see if all the hubbub about .177 FX not shooting well was true, or old wives tales.

I had shot my newby AAFTA matches last year with a .177 Daystate Pulsar, and the gun is very accurate and shot the 10.65 H&N very well at 910 fps. I've only shot maybe 5 matches total, and my last one at the Saguaro Classic at Rio Salado in AZ my first round sucked, but my second was comparable to most of the top shooters.

Anyway, shortly after that I got the Dreamline. And stashed it in the gun cabinet and forgot about it until after EBR. Until this past Sunday. My Pulsar shot the 13.4 JSB RDMs pretty good, but shot the H&Ns better and didn't like the 10.3 JSB at all. I wanted a gun that would shoot the 13.4 RDMs for their wind bucking abilities. So I scoped up the Dreamline, tuned for 820 fps, reg. set at 85 bar, got the rough zero in my backyard at 14 yards, and went to my shooting spot.
Set a target at 50 yards. Shot a few burners, then shot this 5 shot group, 50 yards, RDMs at 820 fps. Light breeze left to right...
This was the VERY FIRST GROUP that I shot!!! SCHWING!!! That's my pinky finer...

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I shot about 200 rounds, and was trying different wind holds and comparing to the Pulsar with 10.65 H&Ns. Definitely better the RDMs by a considerable amount. Some groups like this one, some not quite as good, but all would fit under a dime. Looks like I have a different FT gun for this year. It is very light, so off hand is harder, and I already suck at off hand, so perhaps I'll add a weight up front.
Oh, and the answer to the Title question - yes, FX Superior liners CAN shoot .177 accurately...
;)

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Im thinking about buying the fx classic is it a good airgun for target shooting 177 that what i must shoot at the club please help
My initial thought is yes, but I haven't shot it more than once. From the above, you can tell its accurate. Easy to shoot, light cocking, gets three mags (21 shot mag) per 230 bar fill down to 90 bar. Lightweight, very good trigger. What's not to like? Tune the gun to 20 FPE with the 13.43 JSB Monster Redesigns... Contact Joe, he might have a few.
 
There are some outstanding FT shooters at my club who shoot .177 FX rifles. They all regularly shoot above 80% and very often above 90%.

Not sure where the "FX can't shoot .177's" came from. They certainly can. Do FX liners outshoot poly or traditional barrels for FT? That's a different discussion...
Yes, good question, but the more important question is, "do they need to"? For 25M BR I can see comparing ultimate precision and accuracy, but for FT a gun that keeps five shots inside a dime at 50 yards is "good enough"...
 
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Yes, good question, but the more important question is, "do they need to"? For 25M BR I can see comparing ultimate precision and accuracy, but for FT a gun that keeps five shots inside a dime at 50 yards is "good enough"...
100% agree. Once you're in the dime-sized group range (I.e. you can't blame equipment for misses) I think the focus needs to shift away from precision and back to things like ergonomics and positional shooting.

FT is about making every shot "good enough". That's why its so fun :D
 
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I'm not a FT competitor, but I'm familiar with the format. I've always believed, any quality PCP rifle has the accuracy needed to compete in this game. It's 99% shooter. I think, a high level position shooter would clean house with an even average rifle.
I agree, good point, especially if he is very good off hand... From what I've seen, that is a great deal of the time the deciding factor once shooters get to a certain level.
 
I agree, good point, especially if he is very good off hand... From what I've seen, that is a great deal of the time the deciding factor once shooters get to a certain level.
All one needs to do is observe a top level service rifle match, as the Camp Perry National Matches each year. What these shooters can do, standing, at 200 yards is amazing.
 
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The international AAFTA match held in Puerto Rico results were just published. The number of FX rifles reported used in this competition is---


And we all know the reason for that is FX guns are simply not expensive enough! 🤣🤣🤣

A FX Dreamline straight from dealer with a descent tune will out shoot most FT shooters. Down side of FX is they won’t prevent users from jacking it up.
 
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Early this year I bought a new .177 FX Dreamline Classic in Walnut with a 500mm STX Superior (Super Lite) barrel. I only really bought it because Joe @viperjoe had it for such a good deal (under $1000) that I wanted to see if all the hubbub about .177 FX not shooting well was true, or old wives tales.

I had shot my newby AAFTA matches last year with a .177 Daystate Pulsar, and the gun is very accurate and shot the 10.65 H&N very well at 910 fps. I've only shot maybe 5 matches total, and my last one at the Saguaro Classic at Rio Salado in AZ my first round sucked, but my second was comparable to most of the top shooters.

Anyway, shortly after that I got the Dreamline. And stashed it in the gun cabinet and forgot about it until after EBR. Until this past Sunday. My Pulsar shot the 13.4 JSB RDMs pretty good, but shot the H&Ns better and didn't like the 10.3 JSB at all. I wanted a gun that would shoot the 13.4 RDMs for their wind bucking abilities. So I scoped up the Dreamline, tuned for 820 fps, reg. set at 85 bar, got the rough zero in my backyard at 14 yards, and went to my shooting spot.
Set a target at 50 yards. Shot a few burners, then shot this 5 shot group, 50 yards, RDMs at 820 fps. Light breeze left to right...
This was the VERY FIRST GROUP that I shot!!! SCHWING!!! That's my pinky finer...

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I shot about 200 rounds, and was trying different wind holds and comparing to the Pulsar with 10.65 H&Ns. Definitely better the RDMs by a considerable amount. Some groups like this one, some not quite as good, but all would fit under a dime. Looks like I have a different FT gun for this year. It is very light, so off hand is harder, and I already suck at off hand, so perhaps I'll add a weight up front.
Oh, and the answer to the Title question - yes, FX Superior liners CAN shoot .177 accurately...
;)

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