My Taipan v1 compact absolutely hates them . One of the worst I've ever shot complete garbage . I have close to 1000 rounds of that crap .
I would like my money back JSB .
I would like my money back JSB .
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177 Hades any one having any luck?
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How odd. I also have a first generation Taipan Veteran Compact in 0.177, and it shoots the little Hades great. I use it strictly for pesting in my back yard, all shots are right at 20 yards. At that range the little Veteran hits exactly where I aim.
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I think your the first to have any luck with them . That's great
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What speed were you shooting the Hades at? My Veteran was shooting very fast out of the box. I turned down the hammer spring to get the Hades at 790 fps. At that speed the accuracy is very good and it shoots forever on a fill. Hope you find a pellet your Veteran likes.
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Yes the Hades do not like to go fast, 800 FPS seems to be the happy spot, My guns tuned for the 18 gr JSB pellets can not shoot the hades ,
Mike
Mike
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I haven't found any luck with them for great accuracy. I think the design needs more weight to be stable. I mean they're grouping better than what I'm seeing in the photos in this thread, but nothing like other pellets. I've had great hades success in .22 and .25 though.
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There are many pellets that it groups well with . It's the .177 Hades that it really doesn't like. I'm pushing a 10.3 at 886 . I lower the HS tension for 7.4 CPHPs so I will try it with the .177 Hades sometime. My .22s and .25 cal likes Hades. I just tried them in my .177 hw30 and the accuracy was fine .
I can learn something here every day if I pay attention. Thanks for the info guys .
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I've tried 177 hades in a few different rifles with mix results. My findings are that they like a harsh initial blast rather then a push down the barrel.
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Sounds like under 800 fps and they will more accurate.
Anyone hunt with the .177 jsb 10.3s Hades that has observed the expansion of the pellets ?
Anyone hunt with the .177 jsb 10.3s Hades that has observed the expansion of the pellets ?
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I've never recovered a .177 Hades shot at a live target. At 790 fps and 20 yard range I get complete pass throughs on birds and squirrels.
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They zip right through sparrows at 16 yrds going 460fps using my Mutant or Lelya2.0 both shoot them great.
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Off the top of my head, that stupid design on the nose is going to produce some turbulence if you get it spinning fast enough. If it isn't perfectly centered, the pellet will wobble or spiral. Put the two together, and you're likely to see accuracy fall off a cliff randomly each shot beyond a certain range. I gather most folks who are happy with them aren't shooting beyond 25 yards.
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Hades in 22, 25, and 30 Cals dont expand unless you push them really fast. Way faster than most 177 can produce. Now I have not tried the 117 specifically so dont take my opinion as fact; but I would not expect any expansion from those tiny guys. You might see some slight deformation if the target contact fps is 850+, but it would likely need to be much higher. Lots of ballistic gel testing on the ol youtube now, to compare hunting pellets and speeds.
I have read many reviews on the new 177 Hades and it appears the head diameter is really small, especially compared to the skirt diameter. Might be an issue causing accuracy problems for people.
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I concur, I've never had great or good luck shooting the hades out of any caliber except for .25 and .30 the .22 hades just recently proved that wrong out of the GK1. But the hades in .25 I have found that like to fly around 990-1010 out of the AEA barrels the single shot rifles not the semi.
The only "hunting" .177 pellets similar to the hades that has always shot great has been the H&N hunter extremes even out to 50yds, rarely if ever any fliers, close second are the cuda hunters.
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