.177 or .25

[crowski]

Do I buy .177 or .25? My 2 choices. I’m in Canada so slim pickings. 
I am going to order 97kt tomorrow at noon. I have a 97k .22 and a 80k .25 plus 10 more guns in .22, mostly weihrauch. This is my first same gun, different caliber, thanks to this forum. I’m green and got lots to learn. When I get more time, hope to shoot more. Only 2 guns with a tin through them and 1 I bought the one used.

This started for me 2 yrs. ago I had to repay my intruders, a friend recommended a weihrauch. I took his advice.

Reading this forum I’m leaning .177 for accuracy? I may be shooting more targets. Not into PCP. Yet. Any input would be appreciated. Crow 

 

[biohazardman]

The.25 has a very loopy trajectory in a spring gun as I am sure you have noticed with the one you already have. The .177 would shoot much flatter. You already have a .25 were it me I would go .177.

 

[Guest]

ditto .25 is way too much lead for a springer.

 

[Glenroiland]

The.25 has a very loopy trajectory in a spring gun as I am sure you have noticed with the one you already have. The .177 would shot much flatter. You already have a .25 were it me I would go .177.

My thoughts exactly...

 

[nervoustrig]

Deleted. Sorry, wrong thread.

 

[Long_Gun_Dallas]

I honestly might go with the .25 It would make for a very fun plinker. But for hunting? I would pass. I like my hunting rifles to shoot 900fps at least 

 

[Guest]

.177. The 97 power plant doesn't have the a$$ to truly shoot a .25 cal pellet unless it's the GTO lead free 16.7gr stuff. If you have to move up, the next lowest weight is 19.91 in the H&N FTT's. I have a couple of magnum gas rams that will do 18-20fpe in .25 but my guess is you'll likely only hit 11-12fpe with a 97.

 

[crowski]

Thanks for all your replies. It will be.177. Hesitate 

My buddy who taught me about Airguns, would have nothing to do with anything smaller than .22 cal. Because of Covid-19 we live in isolation, so I thought the same way. I accumulated 15 guns mostly .22 and few larger. I’m not a computer wizard, so it took me till mid December to stumble on this forum. The wealth of knowledge here made me realize the .177s are a step up in accuracy. I did get a sport 124 just before Christmas (ordered in August) just put a king optics scope on it. Only 20 rounds through it. Sweet. Again thanks Crow 

 

[Long_Gun_Dallas]

Step up in accuracy? Hmmm If you mean by shooting flatter? Then I suppose that could lend to more hits at range.... so long as the wind cooperates. But I'd be real hard pressed to find a .177 that is any more accurate than several of my .22's

 

[Lewis]

.177 without hesitation.

You will find a whole new level of interest in springers closer to 12 FPE. They just plain behave better. They become easier to cock, more accurate, less hold sensitive, stop breaking most scopes, and .... 

You will also find a much wider variety of available pellets. .177 are also cheaper to shoot. I have had good results with the JSB 8.44's with the 4.53 head size. It would at least be a good place to start.

 

[Guest]

Also buy an hw77 instead of a hw97...iron site capability

 

[r1lover]

You already have a .177 zinger in your 124. Try something different and get a 97 or 77 and install a 12 ft. lb. spring and guide from ARH. I have one in my 97 which is shooting about 11 ft. lbs. It is dead nuts accurate, a joy to shoot and I never worry about my scope going haywire.

 

[Raden1942]

Aren't you limited to 500fps or something like that in Canada? I am not sure what laws you have to go by but someone told me that he couldn't get a gun that shot faster than that. Maybe he didn't have a license or something like that. Anyway if you are limited to 500 fps I would go with the 25. if not 177. I am going to get an hw97k one day and have motorhead tune it down to 12 or 13fpe for the "better manners" mentioned above. However I love magnum springers for bigger game. My dad has a hatsan 130 in 30 cal and it's accurate and bad ass for racoons at 10 yards or under. It's probably still good at farther distance but it doesn't have a scope on it and my backyard is only 10 yards long so I can't speak on that. All that to say a 25 or 30 cal pellet going 500 fps knocks the holy hell out of game and it's really fun. Definitely has a loopy trajectory but hey that's why you got more than one gun!

 

[Clancy]

It'll make for a frustrating plinker. The smaller calibers are simply better at putting lead on target, and the further you shoot the more the gap widens.

 

[crowski]

Lewis, thanks I like the easier cocking, I have a hw 90 and a Hatson 130. I can cock them, my shoulder aches just mentioning them. Young mans gun. I also have a 98 which is night and day difference for cocking. 

 

[crowski]

HPAman I have a 77 in .22, love the gun. I don’t have the choice of a 77 and doubt it will be any time soon they will be restocked here in Canada. Crow 

 

[crowski]

r1lover I am retired but no time yet, to disassemble guns. I’m busier now than when I worked, and I had my own business. I have all tools needed, just lacking time, like everyone else. I see light. Crow 

 

[crowski]

Raden1942 in Canada you can buy a pellet gun under 500 FPS almost anywhere. Over 500 you need license. No silencers.

Do you know why there’s no more circus is in town? —- that’s because all the clowns are Canadian politicians.

If it looks like a silencer not allowed. I have a Diana red laminate pro stuck at border right now. The distributor used UPS at lease 50 times, in past. Not allowed anymore. I’m praying it gets through, it’s payed for. Crow 

 

[crowski]

Thanks got the .177. Crow 

 

[crowski]

Long-gun-Dalla I see what you mean. Shot long shots, just to see what happens with wind. At 80 yds. the .177 hard to control and when the FWB 124 hit it barely dented the ply.
Same target hw80k .25. way easier to hit and when it hit went through 3/8 plywood. Thanks Crow