.22 Brocock Sniper XR PISTOL conversion

Yes, I know; Brocock makes excellent out-of-the-box pistols. However, I am neither willing to BUY one, nor do any of them fulfill all my demented air pistol desires. Also, I already had an awesome .22 Brocock Sniper XR LAMINATE mostly gathering dust, because it has been relegated to a single, specific use (35 Foot Pound class Bench-Rest Silhouette competition). Lastly, Brocock pistols all use plastic stocks.🤮 So I decided to build my own dream air pistol!

Correction- my own dream air pistol-carbine CONVERTIBLE... with a wooden (laminate) stock.😁 But before butchering a perfectly good $2000 PCP rifle, believe it or not, I put not only a lot of thought into it, but a lot of fore-thought into it. Upon realizing the finished product would do about 90% of everything any sane airgunner could ask of any airgun, meaning about 50% of everything this lunatic airgunner can dream up for an airgun, out came the hack-saw and pipe cutter!:oops:

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Sniper convertible.jpg


Having previously reported (on this forum) some of the gory details, this post will concentrate on the end PERFORMANCE results. More specifically, those results achieved yesterday shooting 'Black Magic' in PISTOL form.

Sniper pistol.jpg


Primary motivations for butchering a perfectly good Sniper XR Magnum rifle being to "build a BETTER mouse-trap" for Extreme Pistol Field Target competition, launch a new EXTREME Extreme Pistol Field Target competition (or class), and expand air pistol hunting horizons beyond previous bounds, the four-position, instant-power-adjusting-knob not only had MUCH to do with success, but added another, multi-layered "learning opportunity" complication to the project/process/ADVENTURE.

The Extreme Pistol Field Target power limit being 20 foot pounds, and the anticipated maximum power output of the chopped to 14.5" barrel being 26-28 foot pounds on the (highest) Power Level Four, I expected to have to do no small amount of 'tuning' to land a lower Power Level setting in the 19-20 FP range. If all went as hoped, that tuning might entail not only lowering the regulator (output) pressure, but possibly also adjusting the (factory) hammer-tension nut on the ass-end of the receiver. Such proved to be the case; but that process couldn't have gone more perfectly in my wildest dreams (which, TRUST ME, are wilder than most sane folks imagine).

One of my many quirks, foibles and idiosyncrasies being POWER-lust, I was pleasantly surprised to see the 14.5" chopped pistol barrel producing 865 FPS/30.1 foot pounds over the chronograph with my preferred 18.1 grain FX pellets. However it was no surprise to find Power Level Two not only coming closest to my 20 FP goal, but 10% above that Extreme FT goal; as hoped. And, FORE-THOUGHT.

Reducing the regulated-output pressure being part and parcel to the anticipated process, depressurizing the gun being part of that process, and a shorter/smaller-diameter chamber-bottle being another anticipated change (mostly for aesthetic purposes), thankfully I was able to effect a trade of the original 480cc bottle for the 300cc bottle seen in the third (pistol) photo above. With the smaller bottle in place but little experience adjusting regulator pressures, thankfully my guess of about a quarter-turn of the reg-adjustment screw got me exactly where I wanted to go; that being BELOW my end-goal of as close to 20 foot pounds on Power Level Two as possible. Power Level Two averaged 686 FPS and 18.9 foot pounds, to be exact. Increasing reg pressure output with the external adjusting screw presenting no danger with pressure in the bottle/gun/plenum, I crept up on my power goal quite 'gingerly'; landing at 701 FPS/19.75 foot pounds average with the 18.1 FX pellets at a regulator output pressure of 125 BAR. SUCCESS!

But... wait! What if, as anticipated, power crept up a little after a few dozen or hundred shots? Remember that fore-thought part?

Yep; that's what happened. Exactly as hoped! To exactly 710 FPS/20.3 FP after about fifty shots. Sure hope that hammer-spring power-nut works well, because MANY DON'T!

Backing off the nut had less effect than expected, but 1-1/4 counter-clockwise revolutions worked pure MAGIC! Results-

18.1 grain FX, 125 BAR reg pressure, Power Level 2, 10 shot string- Low= 701, High= 703, Extreme Spread= 2, Standard Deviation= .8, Average= 701 FPS/19.8 Foot Pounds.

18.1 grain FX, 125 BAR reg pressure, Power Level 4, 8 shot string- Low= 844, High= 849, Extreme Spread= 5, Standard Deviation= 1.7, Average= 846 FPS/28.8 Foot Pounds.

In over three decades of obsessive chronograph testing of hundreds of airguns of all kinds, the extreme spread and standard deviation in red above are the lowest I've ever seen.

Individuals with immensely more airgun regulator experience than me have shared their knowledge and advice to help guide my clumsy airgun monkeying efforts 🐒. More specifically, one individual with immensely more airgun regulator experience than me has selflessly shared his invaluable knowledge and advice to help guide those efforts. Many reading this will recognize him.

In our conversations about airgun tuning and regulators Derrick often alludes to a 'sweet spot' balance of reg pressure and hammer-blow where regs perform best. And although I've seen glimpses of evidence confirming the reg basics he's explained, none so poignantly graphic as I stumbled into above. I can't thank you enough for sharing your knowledge, DW! Or enduring my creeping dementia 🥲!

That said, don't expect any mercy out there on the Extreme Pistol FT course. No mercy! But I know you'd have it no other way.

With Black Magic's chopped barrel and shroud scheduled to go away for threading to reattach the shroud top-hat/moderator-attachment today, yesterday was my only opportunity for accuracy testing for a while. Of course the winds were hideous; gusting all over the place to 25-30 MPH. Nevertheless, as is my habit, I decided to quantify accuracy best as possible in the near-gale-force conditions by shooting four consecutive five-shot groups at 50 yards from stool-and-bipod field target position, followed by four more groups from sand-bagged bench-rest. It proved a most 'interesting' exercise.

Considering the wind conditions, I was (again) quite pleasantly surprised to achieve a 1.30" c-t-c average from the stool-and-bipod FT position (bottom-most four groups below). That comparing favorably to my abilities in good conditions, I took it as a good sign of the pistol's capabilities in human hands. Correction- sub-human hands!🦧

Upon moving to the bench, it was no surprise to see my point-of-impact move up and right about 1" (top four groups below). Changes of POI are normal with any rifle or pistol from drastically different positions and rests. It was also no surprise to see the bench-rested groups' average calculate to no better than 1.07" c-t-c, given the wind conditions. More specifically, given ONE SHOT opened-up one group considerably due to a sudden, momentary lapse in gusts not noticed until that shot broke. That stated, I have no doubt Black Magic will average 3/4" c-t-c or better groups at 50 yards in still conditions; because, no doubt, the hideous winds accounted for at least .32".

Black Magic 50.jpg


However a huge surprise was the relatively small difference of only .23" between the bench-rested and FT position results. I'll explain that like this- ONE experiment should not be construed as conclusive.

Unfortunately it will be a while before the threaded barrel and shroud return to conduct more testing. Regardless, suffice to say I couldn't be happier with how this conversion has gone so far.

I really, REALLY look forward to testing at Power Level Four upon return of the threaded barrel and shroud...

WITHOUT HEARING PROTECTION! "Say what?"
 
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Ron,
HA .. what an animal !!! Chop / Cut / Trim ... lol, so relatable.
I too shot my JTS XFT pistol just yesterday at our club match ... on the rifle range of 3/8" to 2" targets. Was able to do 75% with a 45/60 score.
Shooting 15.9's @ 750 with it.

FUN STUFF !!!!

75% with a pistol on a(ny) rifle FT course is awesome, Scott! Great shooting.
 
Another spectacular feat of airgun-rabbithole diving.
Head first.
No holds barred.
No safety nets.
Just black hair on a bare chest.


Way to go (down), Ron!! 😆
Very cool project. Congrats on such an excellent execution!

Matthias

Thanks Matt; good to know some (few) can relate to my weirdness(es). Now well into my sixth decade of airgun rabbit-hole diving, it occurs to me the holes are growing deeper and wider all the time...

As the hair on my chest grows ever the less black! Let's leave it at that for now. :oops: 😱🤮
 
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Yes, I know; Brocock makes excellent out-of-the-box pistols. However, I am neither willing to BUY one, nor do any of them fulfill all my demented air pistol desires. Also, I already had an awesome .22 Brocock Sniper XR LAMINATE mostly gathering dust, because it has been relegated to a single, specific use (35 Foot Pound class Bench-Rest Silhouette competition). Lastly, Brocock pistols all use plastic stocks.🤮 So I decided to build my own dream air pistol!

Correction- my own dream air pistol-carbine CONVERTIBLE... with a wooden (laminate) stock.😁 But before butchering a perfectly good $2000 PCP rifle, believe it or not, I put not only a lot of thought into it, but a lot of fore-thought into it. Upon realizing the finished product would do about 90% of everything any sane airgunner could ask of any airgun, meaning about 50% of everything this lunatic airgunner can dream up for an airgun, out came the hack-saw and pipe cutter!:oops:

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Having previously reported (on this forum) some of the gory details, this post will concentrate on the end PERFORMANCE results. More specifically, those results achieved yesterday shooting 'Black Magic' in PISTOL form.

View attachment 367784

Primary motivations for butchering a perfectly good Sniper XR Magnum rifle being to "build a BETTER mouse-trap" for Extreme Pistol Field Target competition, launch a new EXTREME Extreme Pistol Field Target competition (or class), and expand air pistol hunting horizons beyond previous bounds, the four-position, instant-power-adjusting-knob not only had MUCH to do with success, but added another, multi-layered "learning opportunity" complication to the project/process/ADVENTURE.

The Extreme Pistol Field Target power limit being 20 foot pounds, and the anticipated maximum power output of the chopped to 14.5" barrel being 26-28 foot pounds on the (highest) Power Level Four, I expected to have to do no small amount of 'tuning' to land a lower Power Level setting in the 19-20 FP range. If all went as hoped, that tuning might entail not only lowering the regulator (output) pressure, but possibly also adjusting the (factory) hammer-tension nut on the ass-end of the receiver. Such proved to be the case; but that process couldn't have gone more perfectly in my wildest dreams (which, TRUST ME, are wilder than most sane folks imagine).

One of my many quirks, foibles and idiosyncrasies being POWER-lust, I was pleasantly surprised to see the 14.5" chopped pistol barrel producing 865 FPS/30.1 foot pounds over the chronograph with my preferred 18.1 grain FX pellets. However it was no surprise to find Power Level Two not only coming closest to my 20 FP goal, but 10% above that Extreme FT goal; as hoped. And, FORE-THOUGHT.

Reducing the regulated-output pressure being part and parcel to the anticipated process, depressurizing the gun being part of that process, and a shorter/smaller-diameter chamber-bottle being another anticipated change (mostly for aesthetic purposes), thankfully I was able to effect a trade of the original 480cc bottle for the 300cc bottle seen in the third (pistol) photo above. With the smaller bottle in place but little experience adjusting regulator pressures, thankfully my guess of about a quarter-turn of the reg-adjustment screw got me exactly where I wanted to go; that being BELOW my end-goal of as close to 20 foot pounds on Power Level Two as possible. Power Level Two averaged 686 FPS and 18.9 foot pounds, to be exact. Increasing reg pressure output with the external adjusting screw presenting no danger with pressure in the bottle/gun/plenum, I crept up on my power goal quite 'gingerly'; landing at 701 FPS/19.75 foot pounds average with the 18.1 FX pellets at a regulator output pressure of 125 BAR. SUCCESS!

But... wait! What if, as anticipated, power crept up a little after a few dozen or hundred shots? Remember that fore-thought part?

Yep; that's what happened. Exactly as hoped! To exactly 710 FPS/20.3 FP after about fifty shots. Sure hope that hammer-spring power-nut works well, because MANY DON'T!

Backing off the nut had less effect than expected, but 1-1/4 counter-clockwise revolutions worked pure MAGIC! Results-

18.1 grain FX, 125 BAR reg pressure, Power Level 2, 10 shot string- Low= 701, High= 703, Extreme Spread= 2, Standard Deviation= .8, Average= 701 FPS/19.8 Foot Pounds.

18.1 grain FX, 125 BAR reg pressure, Power Level 4, 8 shot string- Low= 844, High= 849, Extreme Spread= 5, Standard Deviation= 1.7, Average= 846 FPS/28.8 Foot Pounds.

In over three decades of obsessive chronograph testing of hundreds of airguns of all kinds, the extreme spread and standard deviation in red above are the lowest I've ever seen.

Individuals with immensely more airgun regulator experience than me have shared their knowledge and advice to help guide my clumsy airgun monkeying efforts 🐒. More specifically, one individual with immensely more airgun regulator experience than me has selflessly shared his invaluable knowledge and advice to help guide those efforts. Many reading this will recognize him.

In our conversations about airgun tuning and regulators Derrick often alludes to a 'sweet spot' balance of reg pressure and hammer-blow where regs perform best. And although I've seen glimpses of evidence confirming the reg basics he's explained, none so poignantly graphic as I stumbled into above. I can't thank you enough for sharing your knowledge, DW! Or enduring my creeping dementia 🥲!

That said, don't expect any mercy out there on the Extreme Pistol FT course. No mercy! But I know you'd have it no other way.

With Black Magic's chopped barrel and shroud scheduled to go away for threading to reattach the shroud top-hat/moderator-attachment today, yesterday was my only opportunity for accuracy testing for a while. Of course the winds were hideous; gusting all over the place to 25-30 MPH. Nevertheless, as is my habit, I decided to quantify accuracy best as possible in the near-gale-force conditions by shooting four consecutive five-shot groups at 50 yards from stool-and-bipod field target position, followed by four more groups from sand-bagged bench-rest. It proved a most 'interesting' exercise.

Considering the wind conditions, I was (again) quite pleasantly surprised to achieve a 1.30" c-t-c average from the stool-and-bipod FT position (bottom-most four groups below). That comparing favorably to my abilities in good conditions, I took it as a good sign of the pistol's capabilities in human hands. Correction- sub-human hands!🦧

Upon moving to the bench, it was no surprise to see my point-of-impact move up and right about 1" (top four groups below). Changes of POI are normal with any rifle or pistol from drastically different positions and rests. It was also no surprise to see the bench-rested groups' average calculate to no better than 1.07" c-t-c, given the wind conditions. More specifically, given ONE SHOT opened-up one group considerably due to a sudden, momentary lapse in gusts not noticed until that shot broke. That stated, I have no doubt Black Magic will average 3/4" c-t-c or better groups at 50 yards in still conditions; because, no doubt, the hideous winds accounted for at least .32".

View attachment 367823

However a huge surprise was the relatively small difference of only .23" between the bench-rested and FT position results. I'll explain that like this- ONE experiment should not be construed as conclusive.

Unfortunately it will be a while before the threaded barrel and shroud return to conduct more testing. Regardless, suffice to say I couldn't be happier with how this conversion has gone so far.

I really, REALLY look forward to testing at Power Level Four upon return of the threaded barrel and shroud...

WITHOUT HEARING PROTECTION! "Say what?"
You should write a book!
 
You should write a book!


Yupp, Ron should write an airgun book.

Wait!
He DID!!
Ron DID WRITE AN AIRGUN BOOK!!!


No.
Wait again.
Ron wrote not one airgun book.
He wrote TWO airguns books.


No.
Again. Wait.
Ron didn't write JUST TWO airgun books.


➧ Ron!
➧ ➧ Rooooon?!?
How many books on airguns DID you write❓
Do you have any links to your books, please❓


● I found only the following:




Cheers, 😄

Matthias
 
Yupp, Ron should write an airgun book.

Wait!
He DID!!
Ron DID WRITE AN AIRGUN BOOK!!!


No.
Wait again.
Ron wrote not one airgun book.
He wrote TWO airguns books.


No.
Again. Wait.
Ron didn't write JUST TWO airgun books.


➧ Ron!
➧ ➧ Rooooon?!?
How many books on airguns DID you write❓
Do you have any links to your books, please❓


● I found only the following:




Cheers, 😄

Matthias

So, not content with pointing out one of my (many) airgun rabbit-hole diving habits, leave it to Matt to open another RR airgun rabbit-hole diving can of 🪱🪱🪱! 😂

FWIW, I've written and self-published four books on airgunning, and one book on hunting Texas by sporting means, methods, and weapons; which included chapters on hunting with air rifles and pistols (air and fire-powered).

All but the latest book being relatively prehistoric (the first couple composed on word processor, the files saved to FLOPPY DISCS), books 3 and 4 files saved on CD, only the latest book is still available (on Amazon). Titles (chronologically) are The Manic Compressive, Airgun Hunting And Sport, A Sporting Proposition, Airgun Chronicles- Thirty Years Of Airgun Testing And Competition, and Custom, Classic And Otherwise AWESOME AIR PISTOLS!

Surprisingly (NOT!), none made it to the top of the New York Times best-seller list. I attribute their lack of success on the Times best-sellers list not only to the fact they are chock full of TRUTHS, but my 'unique' writing style requires at least somewhat high double-digit IQs to grasp; hence triple-digit IQs to enjoy. So with American IQs shrinking virtually by the minute, to such degrees as humor and reading fast becoming not only threatened entertainments, but endangered skills, the future looks pretty bleak not only for books, but reading, writing, and Humanity. 'Rithmatic? FORGET IT!

It occurs to me this forum serves as my writing outlet nowadays. Otherwise my audience would have already shrunk to zero. Consider what you now read to be part of an ongoing book, the chapters (called 'forum posts') condensed to snippets palpable to folks still willing (and able) to read. :unsure:

That you get it should be taken as a high compliment, Matt. Because it certainly is.
 
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