Does anyone have any recovered 15.89 .22 hades pictures? Would love to see how they perform as far as "expansion" or "shrapnel"
Thanks in advance
Thanks in advance
.22 hades 15.89 photos...????
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.30 Cal JSB Hades
So I just received my order of the recently released .30 cal Hades pellets! I took them straight outside to test them with ballistic gel. I was using my Impact MK2 that I currently have set up for slugs max I was shooting the 44.75 gr pellets at 1024 FPS giving a muzzle energy of 104.2 FPE...
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Hades vs Crow Magnum 22
I just bought a can of the JSB Hades pellets in .22 and had to see for myself how expansion of this new pellet compared to that of the Crow Magnum with its massive forward cavity. From prior experience I knew water to be an excellent medium for initiating hydraulic expansion, so I filled a...
www.airgunnation.com .22 hades results vs crow mag pellets
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@Chuck-in-Ohio thanks for that, the hardy wood rats im shooting are handling .22 18.13 pretty well, they are dying but they are running off more than I'd prefer, about the same as 13.43 at 100 fps faster than im shooting the 18.13, so I am thinking about bringing my .22 speed back up to about 855 and shoot the hades.
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I feed my Zbroia Kozak nothing but .22 Hades at 900ish and they are Voodoo on squirrels and such out to 40 yards in the back lawn.
Next best thing to them is the Howlers at the same speed from a compact impact.
Next best thing to them is the Howlers at the same speed from a compact impact.
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I’ve seen some impressive examples of Hades expansion from synthetic tests, but as far as those recovered from actual game/pests, I was disappointed. See here for prior discussion and example pictures:
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Not impressed with .22 JSB Hades
First kill was a brain pass through with unimpressive exit wound...no recovery. 2nd kill was angled chest shot with recovery. Squirrel ran 20 yards or so. Pellets pushing 960 fps and 32.5 fpe. While they are accurate they haven't been much more effective than diablo's. I can think of a...
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I don't have any photos but I will relay my experience. I was very nearly ready to sell my .22 daystate huntsman regal because I was getting into the space race an felt like I needed more power. That's when the hades came out. That gun loves loves the hades. My shooting with that gun mostly 20 to 42 yds on timber tigers , squirrels and starlings. The difference was so dramatic I'm still shooting that beautiful little huntsman every weekend. The difference in the sound of pellet on game is astounding. Most times the Crack or pop from the hades 42yda away is louder than the gun. Just my 2 cents. Btw 920fps
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They sure POP a lot louder than a domed pellet when striking pests, maybe I am just immagining better terminal performance than what they actually deliver....
I never have dug one out to examine it, so I have no firsthand evidence but my brain likes to think they are delivering the heat.
They are accurate and I have a pile of them, so back to fantasy land I go...Lol
I never have dug one out to examine it, so I have no firsthand evidence but my brain likes to think they are delivering the heat.
They are accurate and I have a pile of them, so back to fantasy land I go...Lol
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I did a heart lung shot on a squirrel that a doomed pellet would have been a pass through the only exit was a tiny piece came out his neck not even lined up with the shot. It probably had about 24fpe left when it hit him
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I posted earlier about being underwhelmed by the Hades expansion on actual game/pests. I will however acknowledge that being a semi-wadcutter geometry does deal out greater damage than a dome. For me they work similar to the H&N Baracuda Hunter Extremes (BHE) with the blunt Philips head impression. They hold onto their accuracy at distances greater than a wadcutter but not as far as a good domed pellet. Likewise, their capacity to cause tissue damage lies somewhere in between.
So for example I will often use wadcutters out to 30 yards, Hades or BHE from 30-50 yards, and domes for 50-80 yards.
So for example I will often use wadcutters out to 30 yards, Hades or BHE from 30-50 yards, and domes for 50-80 yards.
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id say any projectile at all that has 100fps or so more velocity than a fancy pellet will out perform it .. its nothing but candy to get that wallet open ..
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You hate your income don't you? Faster isn't better all the time, a clean quick pass through is likely to do less than a slower larger diameter round that penetrates. Thats simple.
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Yupp, the sound we hear might assist us in believing the performance illusion we so urgently desire.....
➔ That sounds like a real good plan to maximize kill performance.....
Your distinction between the different shapes and their damage potential in tissue make this very reasonable.
Matthias
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There have been quite a few terminal performance tests with the Hades in .22cal —
however, many testers have used water as ballistic medium — which is perfect for expansion — and actual game is far from perfect — so the "test" results are extremely optimistic — not to say unrealistic.....
Below are some of the tests. Note that expansion increases as the hardness of the ballistic material increases unrealistically — and/or the impact velocity (in some tests they are unrealistically high).
If you have any test results, I'd love to get the specs to include your results in the expansion test collection:
▪ Pellets:
https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/...-much-they-expand-and-how-far-they-penetrate/
▪ Slugs:
https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/...xpand-and-how-far-they-penetrate/#post-749008
Matthias
however, many testers have used water as ballistic medium — which is perfect for expansion — and actual game is far from perfect — so the "test" results are extremely optimistic — not to say unrealistic.....
Below are some of the tests. Note that expansion increases as the hardness of the ballistic material increases unrealistically — and/or the impact velocity (in some tests they are unrealistically high).
If you have any test results, I'd love to get the specs to include your results in the expansion test collection:
▪ Pellets:
https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/...-much-they-expand-and-how-far-they-penetrate/
▪ Slugs:
https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/...xpand-and-how-far-they-penetrate/#post-749008
Matthias
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There have been quite a few terminal performance tests with the Hades in .22cal —
however, many testers have used water as ballistic medium — which is perfect for expansion — and actual game is far from perfect — so the "test" results are extremely optimistic — not to say unrealistic.....
Below are some of the tests. Note that expansion increases as the hardness of the ballistic material increases unrealistically — and/or the impact velocity (in some tests they are unrealistically high).
If you have any test results, I'd love to get the specs to include your results in the expansion test collection:
▪ Pellets:
https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/hollow-point-pellets-testing-how-much-they-expand-and-how-far-they-penetrate/
▪ Slugs:
https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/
Matthias
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Thanks for the detailed and informative response! I would have to say if they fly as straight as their "solid" 15.89 counterparts then even the +29% expansion is worth shooting them at game over the solid.
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Out to 40 or 50, they fly the same for me. I have never tried them past that, and rumor has it that they fall apart accuracy wise beyond those ranges.
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