There’s more to it about match ammo, yes there are serious shooters that will travel just to lot test Eley and I don’t know about Lapua. There are those of us that rely on the name and buy bricks to get hopefully an upper hand on those that won’t spend the money. Even Tenex is the exact same ammo as Match sorted out by Eley. All in all it and Lapua Midas has always tested better than others for me. Then again a brick lasts me awhile.
Lapua test centers are in Mesa AZ and Marengo Ohio. I got into Marengo last year and I’m hoping again this year.
You know way more than I do , only read about it. I did get 2 bricks of the same lot I used for our club bench. I haven’t shot in 5 years but hope to go back. Got 2 or 3 Midas bricks left also. I used most of both the Eley and Lapua for silhouette which could easily said a waste.
Please reread my post. Larger powder burning calibers can and do kill from miles away. It is foolish to fire bullets in to the air. 20 grain pellets are a whole different deal. Bullets can assume a trajectory, they do not simply fall to earth. Hi Velocity .22 rimfire is dangerous up to 1 1/4 miles away. Our .22 airguns can achieve similar power with slugs, be sure of your backstop before you pull the trigger, every projectile you launch. Ever have a .22 round whiz by your head from a long way away? One of my friends darn near shot me in the head as teenagers. He thought it would be funny to shoot over my head from a 1/2 mile away, he did not account for drop and darn near shot me in the head.
LOL there you go thinking again, never said you where sharp, I was talking about your shooting skills. Still cracking up
The power of airguns is approaching and exceeding powder based guns on a daily basis. When the projectiles are bullets (slugs) and the velocity is similar, the physics are also similar. When firing bullets, be certain of your backstop.
Now you did say:No way really can any but the most expensive air rifles hang with a good CZ or even my modded 1022 or Savage Target for accuracy much less fpe. And there are many, many .22LR rifles that will shoot MOA with preferred ammo, have far more knock down power for hunting and cost a fraction of an air rifle that could compete. As to ammo, I have stocked up on .22 ammo my entire life and would need another lifetime to shoot all I have. A .22 PB can go from 30 fpe to 150 fpe with a change of ammo. And a .22 PB is also half the weight of some of the air rifles I see on these forums. A .22 PB will also hold POI in rough real world use even for decades.
I justify my four modded .25 M-Rods and my Urban .22 because pellets just do not travel as far or keep energy as far nor do they seem a ricochet likely as .22LR. They have a niche for my pesting and hunting that is very useful in that 30 to 60 fpe range. They are no replacement for a good .22LR rifle.
This Savage was purchased for $350 with a $50 rebate back aways. I have done a lot of work on it. Re-crowned the barrel, bedded the action, installed DIP bottom metal, target trigger work, smoothed the action and it will shoot MOA all day long with CCI SV and with match grade ammo it is hole on hole.
But this super lightweight, short shroud, side lever M-Rod .25 will go hole on hole also, it is a mean hunting machine:
And on the subject, air rifles depreciate the day you buy it. PB rifles retain their value and even appreciate. I have owned this Marlin Mountie 39A my entire life. My grandfather bought it for me the day I was born. I have been shooting it since age 3, yes, really. It is good today as it was 70 years ago, tell me how an FX will fare over 70 years of real world hunting use, not so well I bet.
Do not make the mistake of thinking an air rifle is on par with a good .22 PB rifle, just no way for so many reasons.
Did you say any air rifle? Meet the MCAR 45 cal it will outperform your good .22 in every way. Air guns have been around long before PB and there are some that can be fired today, may not be the oldest but older than your Marlin. It's all in how it's been maintained.No way really can any but the most expensive air rifles hang with a good CZ or even my modded 1022 or Savage Target for accuracy much less fpe. And there are many, many .22LR rifles that will shoot MOA with preferred ammo, have far more knock down power for hunting and cost a fraction of an air rifle that could compete. As to ammo, I have stocked up on .22 ammo my entire life and would need another lifetime to shoot all I have. A .22 PB can go from 30 fpe to 150 fpe with a change of ammo. And a .22 PB is also half the weight of some of the air rifles I see on these forums. A .22 PB will also hold POI in rough real world use even for decades.
I justify my four modded .25 M-Rods and my Urban .22 because pellets just do not travel as far or keep energy as far nor do they seem a ricochet likely as .22LR. They have a niche for my pesting and hunting that is very useful in that 30 to 60 fpe range. They are no replacement for a good .22LR rifle.
This Savage was purchased for $350 with a $50 rebate back aways. I have done a lot of work on it. Re-crowned the barrel, bedded the action, installed DIP bottom metal, target trigger work, smoothed the action and it will shoot MOA all day long with CCI SV and with match grade ammo it is hole on hole.
But this super lightweight, short shroud, side lever M-Rod .25 will go hole on hole also, it is a mean hunting machine:
And on the subject, air rifles depreciate the day you buy it. PB rifles retain their value and even appreciate. I have owned this Marlin Mountie 39A my entire life. My grandfather bought it for me the day I was born. I have been shooting it since age 3, yes, really. It is good today as it was 70 years ago, tell me how an FX will fare over 70 years of real world hunting use, not so well I bet.
Do not make the mistake of thinking an air rifle is on par with a good .22 PB rifle, just no way for so many reasons.
Mike makes the best airguns in the world. I used to own one.
