I still love my .25s. The only caveat to all this is you have to spend some coin to get a .22 cal gun that will produce that power efficiently and accurately. The .25 and .30 can get more power on a budget so to speak.
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22. vs 25. for long range accuracy
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I live in southeast Arkansas, no shortage of deer, no shortage of coyotes, rabbits are scarce due to current agricultural practices. Rats abundant in the corn, bean and ricefields. I suspect that a coyote eats many more rats than anything else as they are plentiful and a no risk prey animal. Would I shoot a coyote if given a reasonable chance? Of course, but give the devil his due. He is an important balancer in the system.
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Not really the fx synthetic drs slinging 40 gr slugs at 900 ish fps have quite a punch also and one of my higher powered 22 cals though
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It looks to me like this year, .25 Altaros shooters are going to smoke everybody. It doesn't matter if they don't though, I know the round is actually the best, it would be the indian failing, not the arrow. I never thought of airgunning as a spectator sport, but I'm rooting for team .25 this year, actually every year.I'd love to see this 3 (three!) years old thread
revived — with new input now
after the high BC slugs have came out (Altaros ATP, then ZAN ELR and Scout Sniper).
Matthias
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I agree with the .22 having similar if not better accuracy in most conditions. There is a better selection, better price, and more shots per fill (pcp’s) as well imo.
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Larger caliber ammo will always have a higher bc unless you restrict the length of the ammo. I doubt I will ever own a FX so I really do not care you can get a higher bc 22 into a FX magazine. I wonder what the shot count of a 80 fpe 22 is? I know it will be a lot lower than a 80 fpe 25 or 30. Matt is OK but some of his stuff sounds like quasi science to me. This one sounds like a bit of a troll.
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We shoot on our backyard range out to 400yds with ar500 targets. (Neighbor has a fab/cnc shop with scrap 1/4” ar500 drops occasionally)
With his .22 M3/800mm barrel setup out to 75yds is like a lazer beam. Out to 200yds with nsa 35gr slugs, his accuracy is pretty good. After that if more than 8-10mph quartering wind, it’s a guessing game for him just to get a splash.
My FX Dynamic 700 in .25 with 38.9gr nsa slugs. Was no lazer beam to 75yds like his, but at 100yds from 75yds my hold is almost the same. At 200yds is where my .25 starts showing off. 300yds with same wind I have very little wind hold. 400yds gets out their but I splash 3/4 of the shots on a 12” plate. Still very audible hits.
I’m not real sure why it’s always said, same speed, same weight. I run up to 55gr out to 895fos as where he stops at 35gr and 1020fps
But my 38.9gr I run up to 1085fps. To many variables to say apples to apples I think.
Both guns have killed many raccoons out to 150yds at night. High shoulder or head for me, headshot for his .22. The High shoulder shot in .22 has never been a light switch in our opinion
With his .22 M3/800mm barrel setup out to 75yds is like a lazer beam. Out to 200yds with nsa 35gr slugs, his accuracy is pretty good. After that if more than 8-10mph quartering wind, it’s a guessing game for him just to get a splash.
My FX Dynamic 700 in .25 with 38.9gr nsa slugs. Was no lazer beam to 75yds like his, but at 100yds from 75yds my hold is almost the same. At 200yds is where my .25 starts showing off. 300yds with same wind I have very little wind hold. 400yds gets out their but I splash 3/4 of the shots on a 12” plate. Still very audible hits.
I’m not real sure why it’s always said, same speed, same weight. I run up to 55gr out to 895fos as where he stops at 35gr and 1020fps
But my 38.9gr I run up to 1085fps. To many variables to say apples to apples I think.
Both guns have killed many raccoons out to 150yds at night. High shoulder or head for me, headshot for his .22. The High shoulder shot in .22 has never been a light switch in our opinion
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150 yard racoon night head shots....
️What a mouthful.
Very good shooting!!
You guys are great!!
Matthias
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.22 is nice because it shoots super flat, but in my experience my .30 kills more squirrels than my .22.
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My .30 drops turkeys at 40 yards with a well placed headshot, but I have a .22 Leshiy 2 that struggles on squirrels at the same distance.
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was wondering the same thing not long ago the way i see it the 22 will never make the same power as a .25
coyote head shot I've got 2 40 and 63 yards using 36g H&N dropped em gone before either hit the ground.
for me I'd rather have more impact, accuracy i get Nikel size groups at 100 -125 yds 600mm good enough for me.
coyote head shot I've got 2 40 and 63 yards using 36g H&N dropped em gone before either hit the ground.
for me I'd rather have more impact, accuracy i get Nikel size groups at 100 -125 yds 600mm good enough for me.
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For squirrels I have very good results with 177. They drop a little bit faster with a 22 or 25 with about double the fpe but they consistently die quickly regardless. I see no difference between a 32 fpe 22 and a 32 fpe 25. The only time any ran was center of chest impacts fron the front that ended behind a rear leg with the 25. More than 2 dozen hit other places dropped immediately.
But I think 22s are too small for larger game. I killed a small raccoon with a 32 fpe 22 but it took 3 shots including a brain shot and finisher. One brain shot with a 25 tuned to nearly 50 fpe on a similar raccoon was lights out.
I don't think a squirrel needs more than a 22 hole to the vitals but I think larger animals do.
But I think 22s are too small for larger game. I killed a small raccoon with a 32 fpe 22 but it took 3 shots including a brain shot and finisher. One brain shot with a 25 tuned to nearly 50 fpe on a similar raccoon was lights out.
I don't think a squirrel needs more than a 22 hole to the vitals but I think larger animals do.
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