.22 vs .30 for 100 yards?

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Lewis

Lewis

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Looking for real world experience feedback on the JSB 25.39 redesigned .22 vs the 44.75 .30 at 100 yards.

This is for paper punching benchrest only. Have you found an advantage with either?

How do they act in the wind?

Is air usage much different?

I know the .30 is more expensive per pellet but if it works better I am willing to invest.

Feel free to move this to another section if needed.
 
Tough question, and the bottom line is that I think whichever gun you have that is more accurate would be the one to use. I have a .22 EDgun R3 Long that shoots the 25.4 RD Monsters at 925 FPS, and is very accurate. But I also have a .30 FX Bobcat that shoots the 44.75 JSB, and in testing is even more accurate. So that's the one I shoot. At EBR last year a lot of guys were shooting the Daystate Red Wolf HP and RD Monsters, so I think its a toss up...
 
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From my experience shooting the FX Impact X .22 cal. pushing the JSB 25.39 gr. Redesigned Jumbo Monsters -- which were heralded as an improvement in accuracy over the original, unstable, Jumbo Monsters -- at 852 fps, vs the Wildcat .30 cal. pushing the JSB 44.75 gr. pellets at 870 fps, the Wildcat wins at every distance (from 25 yards to 100 yards) and hands down beyond 40 yards.

No contest!

It's the 30 caliber in a rout. 

I enjoy shooting pest squirrels and chipmunks with my juiced-up Impact .22 cal. from a secure perch on my patio deck. And I rarely miss a shot. Maybe because I wouldn't dare shoot a .30 caliber at 75 fpe in my subdivision.😉
 
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I lean toward the .22 for the flatter trajectory, but now find one that shoots good. The .30 drops like a stone at 100 yards. Better choice is the .25.

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both are ok, if money is not an issue I will go .30 if not Monsters 0.22 agree very good both are quite accurate at 100y. As mention the good thing on 0.22 is that you can play more with the speed, with .30 you have more limitations. If you can shoot both @ 1000 fps (as max speed, so you can tune down a bit) .30 cal will be my choice for bench probably. But again Monsters are very accurate too ... both ways are good IME

If I recall correct, that is a 100m 8 shot group 0.30 44gn @ 950 fps

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The greatest influence on an airgun pellet's BC is its weight; the higher the BC the the flatter shooting at the same fps. Since airguns are generally fps limited, the 44 gn.30 cal will have a flatter trajectory than the 25 gn. 22 cal. Wind drift is also proportional to BC so the 30 will be superior to the 22.

Without a doubt the 30 is superior to the 22 but the 22 redesigned does have some unique characteristics the make it interesting. 

In competitions like EBR which are scored by plugging to the largest caliber and breaking the ring gives the higher score, the small deficiency in wind drift can be overcome by the plugging process. If scoring was purely MOA then the 22 wouldn't be competitive, but when plugged to a 30, hits that don't break the ring will score up.

The redesigned will still maintain accuracy when shot well past 1000 fps. While this is not a long rage performance benefit because all the extra speed will burn off in the first few feet of flight due to the super high drag; it does allow switching between pellets and heaver slugs with the same tune.

Pellets to pellets, the 30 is the long range winner.
 
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Also, let’s not forget that these guns, .22 or .30, do not shoot themselves. Skill is also a big, if not the biggest factor when shooting targets at 100 yards. Case in point the long range 100 yard at the Saguaro Classic in AZ the last weekend in April this year. Many good shooters competed, including a couple shooters that finished top ten in Pro Class at EBR 2018.

The Winner in the Long Range event at 100 yards, which was the Main Event, shot a .22 RAW and 15.9 grain JSB Exact pellets.

Yes, you read that correctly...
 
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Also, let’s not forget that these guns, .22 or .30, do not shoot themselves. Skill is also a big, if not the biggest factor when shooting targets at 100 yards.
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Hogwash! Everyone knows the best gun always wins. Just like the most beautiful homes are built with only the finest hammers, and the best food is only worth eating if it is cooked on the most expensive stove!

I was a wedding photographer for many years, whenever someone would look at a great picture they would always comment, "Wow! What a great camera you must have!"

All the gear adds up to 10% of the equation.


 
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